Switching to EV1 from Rangefinder not so easy

[Jon D]

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I don’t know if this is the right thread for this comment, but… I’ve set up my Fuji X-E5 with a Leica lens converter. So I can now, in effect, experience a Leica M-EV1 albeit with a 40 megapixel sensor with Fuji colour science. I don’t get automatic zoom, but I have set up the joystick press to zoom in/out. It’s easier to focus (manual focus with no focus peaking) than I had figured it would be. 

[Stevejack]

On 12/8/2025 at 3:56 AM, algrove said:

I am getting so tired of my fence sitting about this camera. One day I want one and the next I say no. Then I think what will I be missing if I forego this model since I am a Viso2 junkie user. 

A dealer has me on his list for next week if I want one. Well for me shxx or get off the pot very soon.

I went back and forth as well.

I really like the Viso2, especially the tilt function. Most of the time I'm still using the rangefinder to focus regardless of lens / aperture. I love the M and get a lot of joy out of micro-composition using the visoflex, and I love using vintage lenses with the evf so the EV-1 should have been the perfect camera for me, but without a fast and reliable way to focus it's a bit of a non-starter for my particular use-cases... I was really hoping for an innovative solution from Leica there.

Other than the size/weight factor, the SL2 covers my needs when I want a good EVF. A financial decision could be made where the M11 + SL2 were both sold to get the EV-1 but I feel that would be a sideways (or even backwards) step in terms of the features I enjoy using. Losing the ISO dial is a real bummer for me as well, I like where it is on the M11 but I guess mapping ISO to the thumb-wheel would suffice.

As a fellow visoflex junkie I'll be interested to hear your feedback on the EV-1 if you decide to get one. 

[algrove]

12 hours ago, Stevejack said:

I went back and forth as well.

I really like the Viso2, especially the tilt function. Most of the time I'm still using the rangefinder to focus regardless of lens / aperture. I love the M and get a lot of joy out of micro-composition using the visoflex, and I love using vintage lenses with the evf so the EV-1 should have been the perfect camera for me, but without a fast and reliable way to focus it's a bit of a non-starter for my particular use-cases... I was really hoping for an innovative solution from Leica there.

Other than the size/weight factor, the SL2 covers my needs when I want a good EVF. A financial decision could be made where the M11 + SL2 were both sold to get the EV-1 but I feel that would be a sideways (or even backwards) step in terms of the features I enjoy using. Losing the ISO dial is a real bummer for me as well, I like where it is on the M11 but I guess mapping ISO to the thumb-wheel would suffice.

As a fellow visoflex junkie I'll be interested to hear your feedback on the EV-1 if you decide to get one. 

Understand you well. I have the SL3 and SL3S both of which handle M lenses well at the expense of size, but the IBIS to me makes a huge difference. 

The ideal EV1 would have IBIS and 120 readout speed. That said it can be a small travel kit with smallish Leica or Voigtlander lenses of E39 filter size.

Must decide as my purchase window will close this/next week from favored dealer.

[SrMi]

39 minutes ago, algrove said:

Understand you well. I have the SL3 and SL3S both of which handle M lenses well at the expense of size, but the IBIS to me makes a huge difference. 

The ideal EV1 would have IBIS and 120 readout speed. That said it can be a small travel kit with smallish Leica or Voigtlander lenses of E39 filter size.

Must decide as my purchase window will close this/next week from favored dealer.

Ideally, an M camera would have IBIS, it does not matter what whether it is EVF or rangefinder model.

What do you mean by 120 readout speed? Do you mean 120 EVF refresh rate?

[Luke_Miller]

3 minutes ago, SrMi said:

Ideally, an M camera would have IBIS, it does not matter what whether it is EVF or rangefinder model.

I don't disagree, but to make that happen the body would have to be as thick as the M (Typ 240).  We know how that went.

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Luke_Miller said:

I don't disagree, but to make that happen the body would have to be as thick as the M (Typ 240).  We know how that went.

Leica said that the body can maintain the thickness with IBIS if they get rid of the mechanical shutter (e.g., by using a stacked sensor).

 

[mboerma]

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I'm still waiting for a Leica M series that can create 8x10 inch Fuji Velvia chromes! Only award winning ones, please! Please?

[steve edmunds]

9 hours ago, Luke_Miller said:

I don't disagree, but to make that happen the body would have to be as thick as the M (Typ 240).  We know how that went.

how did that go? i own an M262 and have never been tempted to "upgrade" but curious to know what you mean?

[algrove]

11 hours ago, SrMi said:

Ideally, an M camera would have IBIS, it does not matter what whether it is EVF or rangefinder model.

What do you mean by 120 readout speed? Do you mean 120 EVF refresh rate?

Yes

[algrove]

On 12/8/2025 at 9:07 AM, Smudgerer said:

CCF-UTRS

OK, YGMT (you got me there)

[Smudgerer]

7 hours ago, algrove said:

OK, YGMT (you got me there)

Fat fingers, a stuck Caps Lock on the keyboard then a hit on the Return key......Meaningless, I'll stick to plain language, always better than text-speak anyway. 

[Luke_Miller]

13 hours ago, steve edmunds said:

how did that go? i own an M262 and have never been tempted to "upgrade" but curious to know what you mean?

My M (Typ 240) is my latest M camera, but it was much maligned for being so much thicker than an M film body (as well as the previous digital M bodies).  Thus the M10 (and subsequent bodies) gave up video and the large capacity battery in order to be thin.  I agree that thin is good.  I still shoot with the M9M and alway note how much better it feels in my hand than the M240.

[steve edmunds]

8 hours ago, Luke_Miller said:

My M (Typ 240) is my latest M camera, but it was much maligned for being so much thicker than an M film body (as well as the previous digital M bodies).  Thus the M10 (and subsequent bodies) gave up video and the large capacity battery in order to be thin.  I agree that thin is good.  I still shoot with the M9M and alway note how much better it feels in my hand than the M240.

Thanks for your opinion , i prefer the much better battery life and "much thicker body" of the M240 [ M262 in my case] . 

[lct]

"Much thicker" by about 3mm.
M11 and M240 bottom plate:

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[3D-Kraft.com]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb lct:

"Much thicker" by about 3mm.
M11 and M240 bottom plate:

3 mm doesn't sound much, but holding them in your hands makes a significant difference. For me, a line had been crossed with the M240.