M to M EV, Range Finder to Mirrorless, now opened a big door for super wide and super tele photography

[Einst_Stein]

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While M with external EVF does offer the opportunity of super wide and super tele photography, even tilt & shift, I have never get useful super wide and super tele lenses yet. Probably people own M usually dispise external EVF, or M with EVF is a small market window, so that thoes lens vendors do not have enough incentives.

But M EV might change this, it might be the mirrorless with the longest flang distance. Without in-body stabilizer mightb still be a drawback, compared to other mirrorless, but it might change. Yes, the body might be thicker, but is it a big deal? how much people who can accept M EV would care that little thickness in exchange of in-body stabilizer?

I hope super wide, expecially with shift or even tilt becomes reality for M. Soon I hope.

Yes, I know, I can get it from SL.

Edited Wednesday at 07:07 PM by Einst_Stein

[jaapv]

Voigtländer? 10 mm and 12 mm... With the needed external viewfinders. Focus is of no importance with such lenses, scale suffices. 

[lct]

I feel no need for external VFs or other bells and whistles personally. Cameras like MEV1 are self-sufficient and can remain as compact as film Ms more or less, and M lenses of all focal lengths can remain compact too. As for thicker bodies, there are SL cameras for that. I can live without IBIS when i set shutter speeds to 1/(2f)s. IBIS will be for M12 or M13 i guess. One at a time

[charlesphoto99]

Opens a door? I never knew it was shut. I guess some just never tried the handle.

Leica M10, 135mm APO and 18mm Super-Elmar w/external finder. 

 

 

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[jdlaing]

43 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Opens a door? I never knew it was shut. I guess some just never tried the handle.

Leica M10, 135mm APO and 18mm Super-Elmar w/external finder. 

 

 

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Door wasn't closed for me either.

[Einst_Stein]

There are a lot more lens choices for Leica L. That shows the weakness of classical range finder.

Edited yesterday at 03:22 AM by Einst_Stein

[kiwidad]

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21 minutes ago, Einst_Stein said:

There are a lot more lens choices for Leica L. That shows the weakness of classical range finder.

if by classical you mean film then yes although ye olde visoflex negated that.

On a digital M your mistaken, there is no focal length not available.

The digital m actually has an advantage over the L camera. There are times an optical rangefinder is better than an EVF. 

[Stef63]

4 hours ago, kiwidad said:

if by classical you mean film then yes although ye olde visoflex negated that.

On a digital M your mistaken, there is no focal length not available.

The digital m actually has an advantage over the L camera. There are times an optical rangefinder is better than an EVF. 

I agree that there are many situations where an optical rangefinder is very enjoyable. But I’m not sure if there is a real advantage on an RF M when we talk about a 18mm, a Noctilux wide open, or non-RF-coupled lenses or longer R-lenses.

With those lenses, you probably are already depending on live view or EVF focusing, so the rangefinder isn’t doing the work. In that case, an SL (or any camera with a built-in EVF) is simply more practical to use.

So for me, it’s not a question of which system is “better” overall, I would say "it depends".  And then you end up with two (or more bodies) 🤣

 

[algrove]

Been shooting wide, close up lenses and telephotos on my M11+Viso2 for years without a second thought.

Right now I don't to want to replace my RF Plus Viso2 camera for an EVF only M.

Edited 18 hours ago by algrove

[lct]

1 hour ago, algrove said:

[...] Right now I don't to want to replace my RF Plus Viso2 camera for an EVF only M.

Quite understandable. I plan to keep my M11 as long as i will need the RF experience personally.