carlosgavina Posted Thursday at 10:05 AM Share #101 Posted Thursday at 10:05 AM Advertisement (gone after registration) 27 minutes ago, SrMi said: That is already in M-EV1, as is in M11. My wish is for people requesting improvements to first shoot with M-EV1 for a while. 😜 I want more digital stabilization then, I find is really jittery on the M11 at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hanno Posted yesterday at 12:17 PM Share #102 Posted yesterday at 12:17 PM (edited) On 10/26/2025 at 10:47 PM, frame-it said: its basically like an SL in an M body anyway. I personally don’t agree on this point, and do use SL3 and EV1 differently. The SL3 has auto focusing, IBIS, and many buttons to configure (vs EV1) so a huge and fast flexibility at your finger tips, all the more so when combined with user profiles. And weather sealing for those who cares about it. The EV1 is a very different user experience for me, bringing me back to the simplicity and elegance of shooting film on M6, despite the OVF vs RF big difference. I was shooting M lenses on SL3 but back to EV1 now. The core of the EV1 experience is digital manual focusing, so there should be a wow factor in that user experience. I don’t see it yet on the EV1. I think Leica, being unsure of the market, may have wanted a lower price point and also to squeeze this one out before M12 iteration, therefore cutting out some of the things which could have made it a very unique experience. Whenever with a new firmware or EV2, I would certain enjoy: - focus confirmation - 120 fps - higher resolution EVF - more choices in configuring existing function buttons and ideally 1 more button - probably more internal memory I will do more testing, but I realised that under my living room’s artificial lights (with old bulbs which need replacing!), the flickering when metering was insane on the EV1 while light on 2x SL3s and non-existant on 2x X2D IIs. Also, the auto WB was perfect on the SL3s while completely off (full yellow screen) on the EV1. Not a problem for me given I use RAW, but quite surprised when comparing with the SL3. Switching the WB to Tungsten solved of course the issue. I personally like that Leica has released the EV1, it has its own space and use alongside M, SL, Q. My true dream is a EV- Monochrome. Praying the Leica Gods. Edited yesterday at 12:19 PM by Hanno 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted yesterday at 12:32 PM Share #103 Posted yesterday at 12:32 PM 3 minutes ago, Hanno said: I personally don’t agree on this point, and do use SL3 and EV1 differently. The SL3 has auto focusing, IBIS, and many buttons to configure (vs EV1) so a huge and fast flexibility at your finger tips, all the more so when combined with user profiles. And weather sealing for those who cares about it. The EV1 is a very different user experience for me, bringing me back to the simplicity and elegance of shooting film on M6, despite the OVF vs RF big difference. I was shooting M lenses on SL3 but back to EV1 now. The core of the EV1 experience is digital manual focusing, so there should be a wow factor in that user experience. I don’t see it yet on the EV1. I think Leica, being unsure of the market, may have wanted a lower price point and also to squeeze this one out before M12 iteration, therefore cutting out some of the things which could have made it a very unique experience. Whenever with a new firmware or EV2, I would certain enjoy: - focus confirmation - 120 fps - higher resolution EVF - more choices in configuring existing function buttons and ideally 1 more button - probably more internal memory I will do more testing, but I realised that under my living room’s artificial lights (with old bulbs which need replacing!), the flickering when metering was insane on the EV1 while light on 2x SL3s and non-existant on 2x X2D IIs. Also, the auto WB was perfect on the SL3s while completely off (full yellow screen) on the EV1. Not a problem for me given I use RAW, but quite surprised when comparing with the SL3. I personally like that Leica has released the EV1, it has its own space and use alongside M, SL, Q. My true dream is a EV- Monochrome. Praying the Leica Gods. 60/120 Hz frame rates seem like a possible issue for the majority of the world, which uses the 50 Hz supply frequency. Even Japan has a east-west 50/60 Hz split. As the camera is not to be sold in the US why not refresh at 50/100 Hz 😉 Cameras would benefit from dual refresh rates especially if the metering and white balance is tied to live view; there is probably also a need for a 10 Hz low pass smoothing on the metering ( firmware should be able to solve this ). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanno Posted yesterday at 01:48 PM Share #104 Posted yesterday at 01:48 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, FrozenInTime said: 60/120 Hz frame rates seem like a possible issue for the majority of the world, which uses the 50 Hz supply frequency. Even Japan has a east-west 50/60 Hz split. As the camera is not to be sold in the US why not refresh at 50/100 Hz 😉 Cameras would benefit from dual refresh rates especially if the metering and white balance is tied to live view; there is probably also a need for a 10 Hz low pass smoothing on the metering ( firmware should be able to solve this ). My limited understanding is that metering and WB are tied to live view / electronic shutter read out. I will let experts chime in. You can reduce / eliminate it by reducing the shutter speed so it’s manageable. The EVF screen experience on the SL3 is way superior in quality and clarity than on the EV1, and for me it is a major disappointment of the EV1 given it’s at the core of the EV1 experience. Hopefully FMW update will make it at par. Currently it’s better EVF experience using M-lenses on the SL3 than EV1. Edited yesterday at 01:50 PM by Hanno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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