Anyone Buying the M11? Or M11-p?

[graphlex]

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On 9/4/2025 at 7:27 AM, nthomas said:

Thinking about grabbing the M11 GBP.

Black paint is another category in Leica world. Neither the M11v or M12 would change this.

I’ve had no problems with my GBP in the 3 months I’ve had it.

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[jakontil]

Latest firmware makes the M11 more reliable than ever

[satijntje]

My glossy Black Paint M11 is running and running and not freezing.
I do not regret to the update from M10 BP to the 11!

 

 

....but that M11-P Safari keeps smiling at me

[o2mpx]

Purely a guess but given the issues with M11’s freezing regardless of how button down by the new firmware, perhaps coming out with a Glossy Black provides a way to separate from the old silver or black versions. Don’t know if the GB M11 is also considered discontinued, but it also provides a model until the M12 as some may not just opt for the M11-p or the M11-v.

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13 hours ago, satijntje said:

My glossy Black Paint M11 is running and running and not freezing.
I do not regret to the update from M10 BP to the 11!

 

 

....but that M11-P Safari keeps smiling at me

Exactly my view.. 🤣🤣🤣 cant stop commenting on this

[jakontil]

20 hours ago, graphlex said:

I’ve had no problems with my GBP in the 3 months I’ve had it.

I have the M11p frm last year, fortunately they behave the same way.. 

[Steadimann]

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I have two M11s - M11P and M11M - no problems whatsoever. Just go and buy it, it's hard for me to image what could be substiancially improved on M12. Of course they will come up with something, but it's already absolutely fantastic.

[JNK100]

38 minutes ago, Steadimann said:

I have two M11s - M11P and M11M - no problems whatsoever. Just go and buy it, it's hard for me to image what could be substiancially improved on M12. Of course they will come up with something, but it's already absolutely fantastic.

Absolutely agree!

[pgh]

On 9/2/2025 at 10:32 PM, o2mpx said:

As the M11 is officially discontinued, are new buyers selecting the Glossy Black or the M11-p? Or waiting for the M11V or holding off until the M12?

None of the above, unless they offer something significant which will make me a better photographer, but I can’t imagine what that would be. 

[o2mpx]

With the M10-r almost universally liked, and being the last of the most matured removable bottom plate generation, the M11 had a tough act to follow, let alone the initial freezing issues putting it even further behind the 8 ball. For those with a M10-r, it’s an interesting pairing to have a M11 to show how Leica broke the traditional lineage with the new model and the upcoming EVF version. 

[T25UFO]

I’m with @satijntje on this.  Sold the M10R BP for slightly more than I paid for it and bought a M11 Mono.  Absolutely zero regrets.  Adding the M11P Safari would be a very tempting, albeit an expensive, exercise.  It would also go well with my Classic 50mm Summilux 🙂

Edited September 7 by T25UFO

[o2mpx]

Any feedback on how the black paint finishes are wearing between the M10-r BP vs the Glossy Black of the M11?

[Stephen.s1]

I've recently come into ownership of a new m11P and M11M.... Tickled.

[Mahesh]

Safari has been smiling at me too but I wish it was weight-wise as light as the normal black M11-p.

I know that's not the point with safari, it is all about fancy brass.

[colonel]

The M11-v (with no RF) has no interest for me. I am sure some folk will buy it, but I don't think it has any relevance on those looking for a manual range finder.

The M13 (or M14, it won't be called the M12 due to license issues in the US) will probably have an electronic VF in the RF window which can be superimposed. Not sure if this will be a choice or a permanent part of the camera. This might be coming next year, or possibly early 2027.

In both events I don't think it should make folk not buy now if they want a classic RF VF with a digital capture. 

As a cheeky aside, all I can say is that if I want an electronic VF I would use a modern AF camera, e.g. my Z8, which is the based AF camera I have ever used. The Leica RF is a separate experience satisfying a different need .....

Edited September 8 by colonel

[FlashGordonPhotography]

On 9/5/2025 at 11:18 PM, Kiwimac said:

That depends. 
 

Imagine that Leica trace the source of the initial issues at least partly to some small component on an M11 circuit board made for them by an outside company. 

As the model ages they take the opportunity as part of the P iteration to change the component in the circuit. 
 

We notice only a reduction in issues and Leica has little interest in or reason to tell customers. 

My release day M11 had no lockups at all that weren’t card related. There was the play back bug but that was easily solved with a menu change. That was week 1. Since then I’ve had zero issues. So far the same with my M11-P Safari.

I did have a GFX camera lock up today repeatedly, on a card that every other camera I have is fine with. It’s not just Leica.

Gordon

[JNK100]

1 hour ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

My release day M11 had no lockups at all that weren’t card related. There was the play back bug but that was easily solved with a menu change. That was week 1. Since then I’ve had zero issues. So far the same with my M11-P Safari.

I did have a GFX camera lock up today repeatedly, on a card that every other camera I have is fine with. It’s not just Leica.

I believe nearly all reported issues to be card or formatting related. If the board was the issue, I think all or none would be affected.

[Stephen.s1]

1 hour ago, colonel said:

 

 

As a cheeky aside, all I can say is that if I want an electronic VF I would use a modern AF camera, e.g. my Z8, which is the based AF camera I have ever used. The Leica RF is a separate experience satisfying a different need .....

Well, Col. We're both on the same page.  When you GOTTA get the shot, the Z8 can't be beat.

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[Kiwimac]

1 hour ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

My release day M11 had no lockups at all that weren’t card related. There was the play back bug but that was easily solved with a menu change. That was week 1. Since then I’ve had zero issues. So far the same with my M11-P Safari.

I did have a GFX camera lock up today repeatedly, on a card that every other camera I have is fine with. It’s not just Leica.

Gordon

I probably shouldn’t say this, but….

 

 I’ve never had a significant issue myself with any camera I’ve owned since my first real one, a Canon AE-1 Program in about 1983/4. 
 

When I was shooting Nikon D3s and D3x bodies I had several batteries. One got deep discharged and would never hold a charge again. 
 

I think my M11 may have had an occasion when I had to pop the battery because it weirded out on me. My 11-P and 11-P Safari had/have no issues to date. 
 

The others that were trouble free include Olympus, Nikon, Canon, Fujifilm, Hasselblad and Sigma. Plus Leica M7, M240, M10-R, M11 and 11-P (x2). 
 

Having said that, I expect my Safari will pack up tomorrow!!

[justj]

On 9/6/2025 at 4:07 AM, graphlex said:

I’ve had no problems with my GBP in the 3 months I’ve had it.

My M11P safari is on the other side of the scale that gives me nothing but problems. It is now on the process of going back to have another fix and this time it may be staying in Germany longer than I have the camera.