petereprice Posted August 9 Share #1 Posted August 9 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey all - I just got an M11 Monochrom and the Visoflex 2, and noticed the other day after dismounting the Visoflex 2, that it scratched the hot show area where the "Leica M11" are etched on the hotshoe plate edge. A scratch here and there doesn't bother me, however I'm now concerned about the wear and tear of putting on and taking off the Visoflex 2, might do to the top plate of the M11 Monochrom. It's a brand new camera and now it's scratched which is a bit of a bummer when it's an accessory that's actively scratching it. Anyone else run into this? Again occasional scratches don't bother me, but I'm just worried that it's just continuously scratching my camera as mount and dismount the Visoflex. Would be curious to hear if anyone else is running into this too. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jakontil Posted August 9 Share #2 Posted August 9 I think u aint alone, the problem is the hotshoe mount aint abrasive resistant on the m11 series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted August 9 Share #3 Posted August 9 Hi Peter, I've had the M10 with the Visoflex020 for almost 8 years and the M11M and Visoflex2 for year. Both Hot Shoes are in good condition. They are not scratched, but I can see slight rub marks without paint loss, which I'd expect given the mounting and dismounting. Perhaps there was a small piece of grit caught in the grooves and you were unlucky somehow. Congratulations on the new M11M, wonderful camera, enjoy!. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted August 9 Share #4 Posted August 9 Put slight bit of lubricant on that hotshoe/Visoflex2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted August 9 Share #5 Posted August 9 2 hours ago, M11 for me said: lubrican You can get grease that improves electrical connectivity of a win-win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 9 Share #6 Posted August 9 The effect was similar with the Leicameter since the 50s. One reason to prefer silver chrome bodies that are less prone to visible scratches than black paint bodies. I have no experience with black M11s though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/423577-visoflex-2-scratching-my-m11-monochrom/?do=findComment&comment=5845811'>More sharing options...
kiwidad Posted August 10 Share #7 Posted August 10 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 hours ago, lct said: The effect was similar with the Leicameter since the 50s. One reason to prefer silver chrome bodies that are less prone to visible scratches than black paint bodies. I have no experience with black M11s though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! If you Mr meter was doing this it was in need of adjustment. Mine made no contact at all with the top of the camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 10 Share #8 Posted August 10 Not just mine, many M bodies around me had scratches on the top plate due to putting and removing the Leicameter. Silver chrome was popular then and black bodies were not black paint but anodized black mostly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyshire Man Posted August 10 Share #9 Posted August 10 This happens with all of my cameras over the years; canon/fuji/leica, anything with painted hot shoe gets worn. I've put a little sliver of electrical tape on each side to protect it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwidad Posted August 10 Share #10 Posted August 10 10 hours ago, lct said: Not just mine, many M bodies around me had scratches on the top plate due to putting and removing the Leicameter. Silver chrome was popular then and black bodies were not black paint but anodized black mostly. I understand it has happened , however the meter shown absolutely will never scratch the top plate unless it is badly adjusted. The Mc had a plastic base as did the later Mr/4 the height of the meter on the non shutter side was a result of the adjustment of the three larger screws on the base of the shoe. If you were hamfisted it might be possible for contact to occurs but hard to see that plastic scratching! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 10 Share #11 Posted August 10 (edited) Another difference between theory and practice perhaps? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 10 by lct 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/423577-visoflex-2-scratching-my-m11-monochrom/?do=findComment&comment=5846329'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted August 10 Share #12 Posted August 10 On 8/9/2025 at 2:26 PM, lct said: silver chrome bodies that are less prone There are plenty of messed up chrome top plates around, so there must have been a lot of badly adjusted meters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted August 11 Share #13 Posted August 11 The Safari has a silver hotshoe. If it’s chrome over brass it’s possibly more resistant, but I don’t know if it is. When I had black M11 bodies I was more mindful when using the EVF attachment. I sold it and haven’t yet felt the need to re-purchase it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris7273 Posted August 12 Share #14 Posted August 12 On 8/9/2025 at 4:45 AM, petereprice said: Would be curious to hear if anyone else is running into this too. Thanks! That's the consequence of a 70 years old design. Solution : I consider the scratches as patina Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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