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32 minutes ago, Robert Ardinger said:

ort of dividing the M mount cameras into two lines - EVF line with all the current and yet to come modern goodies and an optical RF line with all of the heritage.

How are you going to implement modern goodies with lenses that have no aperture connection, focus with a helicoid and have no electrical connection? 

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4 minutes ago, jaapv said:

How are you going to implement modern goodies with lenses that have no aperture connection, focus with a helicoid and have no electrical connection? 

Was actually thinking of the M11's shutter/live view and video adding IBIS, high resolution EVF and a few other "niceties".  Not having autofocus is a given in any "M" line, likewise no shutter priority or program mode - so many, but not all modern features.  

Mostly thinking of a non-optical (EVF) finder "M" mount body with perhaps the (hopefully minimal) size adjustments to handle the above mentioned features (perhaps resembling a traditional M in the way the M5 did :) ).  More "M" than "SL".

My "dream" M-12 would essentially be a digital M7 with the M11's sensor and a screen on the back (except of course in the M12-D) and the M11's lack of a baseplate!

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4 hours ago, jaapv said:

How are you going to implement modern goodies with lenses that have no aperture connection, focus with a helicoid and have no electrical connection? 

So the Question remains - What would be Innovative?  

Is adding a built-in EVF to a camera that already has live view and an accessory EVF finder innovative?  

If speculation is correct that the camera is the M-V, then what does the "V" stand for?  Varifocal?  "M" is Messucher (rangefinder).  

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1 hour ago, Rick in CO said:

So the Question remains - What would be Innovative?  

Is adding a built-in EVF to a camera that already has live view and an accessory EVF finder innovative?  

If speculation is correct that the camera is the M-V, then what does the "V" stand for?  Varifocal?  "M" is Messucher (rangefinder).  

Innovative would be to implement an EVF based manual focusing system that can rival the rangefinder.

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manual focus subject detection like Nikon does it coupled with the small M lenses would be sweet. If they could do it, I hope Leica brings it to the Q as well. 

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On 7/7/2025 at 1:09 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

I think you'll find that putting an EVF in a M is going to be a step of innovation too far for a good many M owners

Perhaps some, but not all, as evidenced by the Leica Historical Society survey.

My wish is for a Q-M, M lens mount on the Q body.  

Jaapv's point that the Q3/43's interlens shutter assembly be removed would dictate an electronic shutter only, and perhaps provide room for IBIS?  

 

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Frankly I’d be surprised if the M11-V wasn’t almost entirely “M11” and not much “Q”. No IBIS, no AF, etc. Just an M11 with an EVF and perhaps a few software improvements (eg focus peaking, subject recognition) to take advantage of the data stream already flowing to the live view screen. Some speculative renderings show the loss of the ISO wheel, but who knows. The market will be limited, I’m sure. The SL forum has many comments from people who use their SL’s mainly with M lenses to get an EVF (and IBIS), as well as concerns about the size and weight of the SL bodies. Leica may be seeing an opportunity to address this market by providing an EVF on the M11 (which would require a minimal investment compared to an extensively reworked body with IBIS etc). One thing is certain, they will charge more for the M11 with EVF. After all, we’re talking about Leica here. For those wanting the full RF experience, there is still the M11. 

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This thread and several others, despite very best endeavours, comes to no serious conclusion.

One thing that hasn’t been addressed is why should Leica do anything?  It already has a very comprehensive line up with M, Q and SL.  This meets the needs of those that want the OVF and the EVF, the latter can be used with auto or manual focus lenses.  Then you have the fixed lens option (Q) with two different focal lengths.

Leica already has more options than most other manufacturers, not even including compact (D Lux), instant (Sofort) and iPhone attachments (Lux).  The investment needed for yet another variant, whose success is far from certain, may not be worth the effort.

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2 hours ago, T25UFO said:

This thread and several others, despite very best endeavours, comes to no serious conclusion.

One thing that hasn’t been addressed is why should Leica do anything?  It already has a very comprehensive line up with M, Q and SL.  This meets the needs of those that want the OVF and the EVF, the latter can be used with auto or manual focus lenses.  Then you have the fixed lens option (Q) with two different focal lengths.

Leica already has more options than most other manufacturers, not even including compact (D Lux), instant (Sofort) and iPhone attachments (Lux).  The investment needed for yet another variant, whose success is far from certain, may not be worth the effort.

Leica is missing the CL: a small and light ILC. An M with EVF comes a bit closer to the CL.

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1 hour ago, SrMi said:

Leica is missing the CL: a small and light ILC. An M with EVF comes a bit closer to the CL.

Yes, I forgot about the CL.  It was popular and had a strong following.  I suppose Leica’s decision to abandon the APS-C format killed it off.  It would have been nice to see that transition into a full frame camera.

I was also sorry to see the X series go and thought that could have been developed further.

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Better a SL3 to put  a 90mm or the 90/280 and the futur 135 mm.

Since you have already a compact camera with the Q3.

My guess is that people who will buy the M evf will be new comer without Q3 mostly.

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