jaapv Posted June 28 Share #81 Posted June 28 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 hours ago, pgh said: Damn I would really love it if all of the Leica online communities focused way more on the creative and compelling results of the tools being instead of the never ending onslaught of limited edition luxury nonsense gadget porn that does nothing different than the main stuff except cater to obscene wealth and mantles or bookshelves or whatever. Think I’ll just go back and take a peruse through Helen Levitt and Andre Wagner’s work that matters - made using non exclusive regular fare Leicas. You are at the wrong brand, I suppose. Leica has been doing expensive special editions since 1932. Part of tradition and heritage. Whoops! Other brands are no-go as well! There is no escape 😜 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422555-leica-m11-d-100-years-of-leica/?do=findComment&comment=5825122'>More sharing options...
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thierry40 Posted June 28 Share #82 Posted June 28 (edited) 41 minutes ago, jaapv said: You are at the wrong brand, I suppose. Leica has been doing expensive special editions since 1932. Part of tradition and heritage. Whoops! Other brands are no-go as well! Here is no escape 😜 https://www.canonwatch.com/the-canon-eos-rp-will-also-come-as-limited-edition-in-gold-but-only-5000-and-just-for-japan/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You are absolutely right, the market is wide open and if there is one for collection why would Leica (or others) ignore it ? There will always be cameras for artists, professionals (or newcomers amateurs like me). Since I bought my first camera, 3 years ago only, I realised this world is very diversified which I ignored totally. Some of us are very interested in technology others not at all, some like editing others not at all, some are artists others not really, some are interested in portrait, nature, architecture, Colors, monochrome… not to mention the 35mm lens fans or for the 28 … 50… some are collecting beautiful tools… the list is infinite and this is what makes it interesting. In short it’s great Leica has a range of cameras and lenses covering each one of our needs. In this respect this 100 years M11D has its place. Edited June 28 by thierry40 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted June 28 Share #83 Posted June 28 I love the way they don’t bother telling us the price. And yet they’re probably all sold already. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 28 Share #84 Posted June 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaapv said: You are at the wrong brand, I suppose. Leica has been doing expensive special editions since 1932. Part of tradition and heritage.... Not to forget that the gold-plated-lizard-skin-covered Leica 1 'Luxus' model became available in very limited numbers in (I believe) 1929 so Limited Edition, Luxury and Bling are certainly a long-standing part of that history and heritage. Philip. Edited June 28 by pippy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted June 28 Share #85 Posted June 28 5 hours ago, jaapv said: You are at the wrong brand, I suppose. Leica has been doing expensive special editions since 1932. Part of tradition and heritage. Whoops! Other brands are no-go as well! There is no escape 😜 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You misunderstand me. Just because they do this shit does not mean that the forums and communities have to be spending so much output on it. It’s not just the Leica forum, it’s essentially any online Leica community. All of them focus much more on the stuff and not what can be done with the stuff, which is ostensibly why most of us are here although maybe I’m wrong on that. Then again, I see I am just perpetuating it so I’ll bow out of this now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28 Share #86 Posted June 28 That is because we like the aura of the brand. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 28 Share #87 Posted June 28 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, pgh said: You misunderstand me. Just because they do this shit does not mean that the forums and communities have to be spending so much output on it. It’s not just the Leica forum, it’s essentially any online Leica community. All of them focus much more on the stuff and not what can be done with the stuff... Over in the M Lens subsection there is a thread called 'The View Through Older Glass' (or somesuch) and that one thread alone contains over 15,000 posts. The raison d'etre of that thread is precisely to show what "can be done" with older lenses. There is also a long-running Monthly Theme thread which regularly has well over 1,000 photographs posted every single month. There is, inevitably, a great many threads devoted to individual pieces of kit but to state that "All of them focus much more on the stuff and not what can be done with the stuff" is misleading Philip. Edited June 28 by pippy 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted June 28 Share #88 Posted June 28 8 hours ago, c.t. said: Yes I know the framelines are automatically selected when a lens is mounted (I've been using Leica M cameras for nearly 40 years), but thanks for your reminder anyway. Since this M11-D 100 YEARS OF LEICA pays homage to the 1925 Leica I that came with a permanently affixed 50mm lens, I think it'll be fitting to have the commemorative M11-D dedicated to 50mm photography - hence a single set of 50mm framelines, plus preferably a viewfinder magnification of 0.91x like that on the M3. Yeah, that would be very nice.😉 Sorry, I didn’t realise . . . your suggestion is interesting and would have made for a truly special edition, but it won’t happen. The Red Dot forum team (David & Josh) have posted a longer unboxing video, see post 73, and I’m sure they would have mentioned the frame lines. Nice idea though . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted June 29 Share #89 Posted June 29 21 hours ago, pgh said: and not what can be done with the stuff Sadly, a lot of threads here are about what people feel CAN'T be done with an M, so they think they need more stuff to add to it, or the next model will be the one with the stuff they really need. They want a 'smart camera' - the M has always been and should be (imo) a 'dumb' camera - an object that one has to use their imagination and smarts and reflexes to use. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted June 29 Share #90 Posted June 29 This should have been a monochrom M11-D. Would have been 👌 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted June 29 Share #91 Posted June 29 20 hours ago, T25UFO said: The Red Dot forum team (David & Josh) have posted a longer unboxing video, see post 73, and I’m sure they would have mentioned the frame lines. During the the video they didn’t look through the viewfinder and probably the camera didn‘t have a charged battery inside - so no chance to see which frames it has. Anyway they told it was a prototype only for the museum and the series of 100 will be produced later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted June 29 Share #92 Posted June 29 Something I just ran across last night in a 7-11 quick-shop. When even Oreo biscuits come in special "collectors/celebrities editions," perhaps that's a sign that the whole marketing concept is now déclassé and past its best-by date? 😁 (photo: M10, 50mm Summicron) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422555-leica-m11-d-100-years-of-leica/?do=findComment&comment=5825793'>More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted June 29 Share #93 Posted June 29 7 minutes ago, adan said: Something I just ran across last night in a 7-11 quick-shop. When even Oreo biscuits come in special "collectors/celebrities editions," perhaps that's a sign that the whole marketing concept is now déclassé and past its best-by date? 😁 (photo: M10, 50mm Summicron) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That really tickled my ribs @adan, thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted June 29 Share #94 Posted June 29 23 hours ago, jaapv said: That is because we like the aura of the brand. It’s what we pay for, right!? It’s hard to gauge sarcasm but in the case that it was sincere, I’ll note actually really dislike the “aura” of the brand, such that it is. Hate is a strong word but the sort of branding position that Leica pursues goes right next to other entities that I view as pretty poisonous forces on this earth, like luxury fashion brands that burn piles of unsold clothing and sell ideas far more than anything of quality. That said, I really do like the tools Leica makes - up to the M10 series at least - I love the design and the am pleased with the results. If Nikon came out with a true digital rangefinder system though, for example, I’d be really quite pleased to jump ship back to them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry40 Posted June 29 Share #95 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, adan said: Something I just ran across last night in a 7-11 quick-shop. When even Oreo biscuits come in special "collectors/celebrities editions," perhaps that's a sign that the whole marketing concept is now déclassé and past its best-by date? 😁 (photo: M10, 50mm Summicron) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Suggest to keep it, in 50 to 100 years your kids will sell it for millions 😂 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted June 30 Share #96 Posted June 30 Lovely limited edition M11D; this isn’t for me but if Leica were to release a regular black paint variant of the M11D, I don’t think I could resist it. I would sell my “regular” M11D in favor of it. Erik 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted June 30 Share #97 Posted June 30 (edited) 22 hours ago, pgh said: If Nikon came out with a true digital rangefinder system though, for example, I’d be really quite pleased to jump ship back to them. If only they would.............I'd be jumping with you. Now there was a camera that was built for reliability if ever there was one. My three FTN's owned/used from the late 60's still work well. Edited June 30 by Smudgerer 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 30 Share #98 Posted June 30 8 hours ago, Smudgerer said: ...Now there was a camera that was built for reliability if ever there was one...My three FTN's owned/used from the late 60's still work well. A number of years ago whilst discussing 'Photography' with our then-13-y-o daughter - who had just recently started taking Weekend Classes in the Art - she expressed a strong interest in shooting Film as did her best friend who happened to be attending the same course. I knew (long story) that the Nikkormat FT models would be a perfect starting-place and ended up buying some examples and the two girls were given free-choice of which bodies they would like to have for themselves. Here is an assembly of the majority of cameras on offer with the sole exception of the Black-Paint Standard Prism F (top-left) which, along with my trusty M2, took me all the way through my own student years. That camera will never leave me (and, currently, is loaded with a roll of XP2); Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Oddly enough - for my way of thinking - the girls each chose an example of the Silver-Chrome bodies with the plastic-tipped wind-on lever (both on bottom row). My own favourite / choice would have been the B-P FTn top-right. But what do I know?......😸...... Philip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Oddly enough - for my way of thinking - the girls each chose an example of the Silver-Chrome bodies with the plastic-tipped wind-on lever (both on bottom row). My own favourite / choice would have been the B-P FTn top-right. But what do I know?......😸...... Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422555-leica-m11-d-100-years-of-leica/?do=findComment&comment=5826544'>More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted June 30 Share #99 Posted June 30 On 6/27/2025 at 6:03 PM, pippy said: Eh? In what way? The M11-D - just like the Leica 1 - can be used perfectly well without having access to a 'phone. It offers control over ISO; shutter-speed; aperture; focus. Anything else is merely 'superfluous baggage'. Philip. yes 'superfluous baggage'' how would you know the battery level - is it in the view finder? or simply carry lots of batteries just in case Internal memory space SD card space white balance lens detection etc all that unimportant stuff 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 1 Share #100 Posted July 1 (edited) 46 minutes ago, hillavoider said: yes 'superfluous baggage'' how would you know the battery level - is it in the view finder? or simply carry lots of batteries just in case Internal memory space SD card space white balance lens detection etc all that unimportant stuff 🙂 I 'only' have the M-D Typ-262 so things might be different on the M11-D but taking that nugget into consideration and to address your points; With screenless cameras battery life is extended - by a conservative margin - five-fold. The actual margin might be four times greater than that or even more. I don't know; in the six years of using the screenless variant I have never once seen the battery level drop below 75% and that was after a HARD day's shoot of several hundred images captured. But I do carry one spare battery 'just in case'. Then again; I have never needed to use the spare. In six years. The M-D Typ-262 doesn't have Internal Memory Space. It doesn't need it. Who 'Needs' "internal memory space"? See below; SD Cards? I have some. If 'space' is running out (there is a count-down in the OVF) I swap cards. As modern card-capacities are so massive I've never once needed to do so. White Balance? Do you shoot in DNG? That small detail aside how do YOU program your cameras for the precise Kelvin Value for any time of day from second to second (I lived in Edinburgh!) in whichever part of the world you are in at the time? Unless you use a Colour-Temperature Meter (as I did in times gone by) to verify the exact colour temperature frame-by-frame you are simply guessing. Apart from all that if you haven't taken K notes for each exposure and are shooting in DNG then you are going to be pissing in the river in any case. Lens Detection? Ah! THAT explains why all those pre-2006 photographs taken using Leica cameras are shite! Lack of Lens Detection!!! Now We Know. Aperture; Shutter-Speed; Focus.....and ability. The Important Stuff. Edited July 1 by pippy 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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