ramarren Posted June 18 Share #21 Posted June 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Ted Lemon said: Quote Heiland TAS I had a look at that too, for that money I think I will keep on physically shaking my spiral! It’s good exercise too! Heh. I'll just keep using my Agfa Rondix and Rondinax, the Lab Box, and the Kodacraft processing tanks. Absolutely no need for a $1000+ processing tank system. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Hi ramarren, Take a look here New: MONOPAN 50 – the new black-and-white 35 mm film from Leica. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Smudgerer Posted June 18 Share #22 Posted June 18 4 hours ago, Andreas_Kreuz said: It 'sounds' like being "ADOX HR-50 135/36". Well of course that's more than likely, a film made in Germany by Adox then re-marketed by Leica at around twice Adox's price...............Nothing new there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 18 Share #23 Posted June 18 Adox with the Leica surcharge. Why not just buy the Adox branded film and save money? £7 from Analogue Wonderland or £10 from your friendly Leica dealer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted June 18 Share #24 Posted June 18 (edited) Adox HR-50 sold for twice the price, meh. Could buy a roll purely as a trinket but not much else. Personally I never liked HR-50 either, rough blown out highlights no matter what developer I tried, didn’t like it in its scala 50 reversal form either, I had much better results doing b&w reversal process with rollei superpan 200, another superpanchromatic film on a clear pet base. Edited June 18 by Bliz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted June 18 Share #25 Posted June 18 1 hour ago, earleygallery said: Adox with the Leica surcharge. Why not just buy the Adox branded film and save money? £7 from Analogue Wonderland or £10 from your friendly Leica dealer. The Adox version doesn’t have Leica color science built into the film. It’s not been tuned to Leica lenses, and it doesn’t have any triple resolution capability. Plus when is the last time Adox delighted its customer base by releasing a commemorative teddy bear? 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted June 19 Share #26 Posted June 19 16 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: No shops in France showing any availability either to order, pre-order or collect in shop. Less than brilliant logistics for getting folk to adopt a new film. I would have bought or pre-ordered probably 3 rolls to try out but I can't. I spoke to the nearest Leica dealer in Hyères and he said he is not expecting any until September by which time I will be back in the UK. Why announce a new film with zero availability? By the time it does become available, folks will have forgotten. Wilson Try buying it in New Zealand….! 🤣 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borna Posted June 19 Share #27 Posted June 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) I welcome this, its fun and good for the photography world. Who cares if its a rebranded Adox film. Enjoy it instead 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 19 Share #28 Posted June 19 18 hours ago, LUF Admin said: Leica MONOPAN 50 will be available worldwide in Leica Stores and through authorised retailers from the 21st of August 2025 17 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: No shops in France showing any availability either to order, pre-order or collect in shop. Less than brilliant logistics for getting folk to adopt a new film Sorry, Wilson, you’ll just have to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 19 Share #29 Posted June 19 11 hours ago, Bliz said: Adox HR-50 sold for twice the price, meh. Could buy a roll purely as a trinket but not much else. Personally I never liked HR-50 either, rough blown out highlights no matter what developer I tried, didn’t like it in its scala 50 reversal form either, I had much better results doing b&w reversal process with rollei superpan 200, another superpanchromatic film on a clear pet base. If you got 'rough blown out highlights' you must have been using the wrong developer. Adox FX-39 II is a very good developer for HR-50 and gives a normal contrast range. I actually don't think Leica would have badged this film if it was unusable for the majority of photographers. And it's a film you can have fun with above and beyond it's fine grain and sharpness, with a deep red or 718nm filter it becomes an infrared film. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 19 Share #30 Posted June 19 I will just order some Ilford Pan F Plus film instead of the Leica 50. In any case I don't have any of my Barnack cameras with me in France, which are the ones I normally use B&W films in, so I may order the Pan F in 120 to use either in my Rolleiflex 3.5F or Mamiya Super 23 Press 6 x 9. I will have to check but I am sure I still have some Shanghai 100 ISO B&W in 127 left from the 5 roll pack I bought on Aliexpress. I can use that in the Rollei Grey Baby I have with me in France but I have to find where I put the unexposed film. The Shanghai 100 was surprisingly good. I thought it was better than the Fomapan 100 I had been using. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterD Posted June 19 Share #31 Posted June 19 (edited) 16 hours ago, Eclectic Man said: According to the London Leica store web site it will be available from 21 August. https://leica-camera.com/en-GB/photography/accessories/m/film/monopan-50 I assume from the video that Red Dot will have it, too. Just checked their website. They will. Availability "late August", RRP £10 (€12, approx. US price I guess is up to Trump, but would be about $13.50 at today's exchange rate) Edited June 19 by PeterD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterD Posted June 19 Share #32 Posted June 19 Update: Clifton Cameras aren't even sure that they will stock it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted June 19 Share #33 Posted June 19 19 hours ago, adan said: So if based on Adox HR-50, a rough competitor to Ilford Pan F, but with sensitivity extended ~125 nm to/into the edge of the infrared. Price is apparently also fairly competitive with Pan F. Shades of the M8 😜 but in a good way (unfiltered M8 was known for nice B&W conversions due to the IR "fill" exposure). https://www.adox.de/Photo/hr50-en/ https://www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1905/product/699/ Filtered or unfiltered B&W conversions with the M8 are still known for excellent B&W conversions even today. Nothing has changed in that department. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted June 19 Share #34 Posted June 19 Looking forward to posted photographs with the new film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleElmar135mm Posted June 19 Share #35 Posted June 19 vor 13 Stunden schrieb DigitalHeMan: The Adox version doesn’t have Leica color science built into the film. It’s not been tuned to Leica lenses, and it doesn’t have any triple resolution capability. Plus when is the last time Adox delighted its customer base by releasing a commemorative teddy bear? A Christmas present for a "good" friend who already has everything. But one roll only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loggy Posted June 19 Share #36 Posted June 19 I'd be more interested if it was like the Ilford XP2 Super which has a black dye coupler embedded and can be processed by any C41 local shop. This is rated at 400 ISO but claims to be usable from 50-800 ISO on the same roll so gives 4 stops of dynamic range to start with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 19 Share #37 Posted June 19 28 minutes ago, Loggy said: I'd be more interested if it was like the Ilford XP2 Super which has a black dye coupler embedded and can be processed by any C41 local shop. This is rated at 400 ISO but claims to be usable from 50-800 ISO on the same roll so gives 4 stops of dynamic range to start with. Given that Kodak discontinued their Chromogenic film, BW400, in 2014 because of lack of sales, it would be an odd decision for Leica to issue one. I rather like Ilford XP-2 Chromogenic but others complain about its lack of grain and character. That is a good thing as far as I am concerned. If you take it at ISO 100, it is super sharp and has more than enough contrast. If you push up from the standard rating of 400 ISO, it does get a bit soft. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 19 Share #38 Posted June 19 4 hours ago, 250swb said: If you got 'rough blown out highlights' you must have been using the wrong developer. Dialing-in a black and white film isn't a simple process. Unlike C41 and E6, manufacturers' recommendations are just a starting point. You need to determine your own EI, using your own equipment (meter, lens, shutter, etc.), and find the right development to reach your target contrast. Your odds of getting it right on the first try are about the same as your odds of picking a random electric guitar in a shop, plugging it into a random amp, and having it sound like your favourite record. That's why the standard advice for beginners is to pick one film and one developer, and shoot for however long it takes to get good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 19 Share #39 Posted June 19 £10 or €10 isn't an outrageous retail price for a roll of film these days, unfortunately. T-Max is more expensive. You can buy the Adox 50 cheaper from online distributors in some markets, but that's not available everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 19 Share #40 Posted June 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, BernardC said: Your odds of getting it right on the first try are about the same as your odds of picking a random electric guitar in a shop, plugging it into a random amp, and having it sound like your favourite record. That's why the standard advice for beginners is to pick one film and one developer, and shoot for however long it takes to get good. The odds of getting it right improve immeasurably if they do some research first. And if somebody goes into a music shop wanting to sound like Jimmy Page and picks a banjo then the lack of research about what guitar he plays will bite them in the same way. And the other thing is how do they know if they've got it right if they have no idea what 'good' is? For some people getting anything is good enough because they have nothing to compare with. On the other hand if they like the look of Ralph Gibson, or Bresson, or Avedon then they have a datum point from which to choose film and developer and 'getting good' can be fast tracked, it doesn't need to be a slog. Having taught photography there is nothing so disheartening for a beginner to find themselves forced up the wrong path by well meaning advice. So the first principle is a question, 'what do you like or what do you want to photograph?', then choose a film and developer. Edited June 19 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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