PeterD Posted June 17 Share #21 Posted June 17 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Martin B said: Answer: collectors. They might even pay $30 for one roll of this rebranded Leica film. And it will sit in their fridges for years only to be rolled out at sale time! 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Hi PeterD, Take a look here Leica Monopan 50 Film ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
BernardC Posted June 17 Share #22 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Peter49 said: If you read the article, it’s pretty clear this is based on Agfa’s AviPhot surveillance stock. High contrast, sharp edges, minimal tonal range – exactly what you don’t want for expressive black and white photography. Who actually needs this? We already have world-class films like Ilford FP4, Delta 100, and especially Kodak TMax 100 – arguably the best black and white film available today in terms of grain, sharpness, and tonality. I haven't used Aviphot-Pan 80, but I am a big fan of Aviphot-Pan 200 in large format, and it's Rollei-branded equivalent (Superpan 200) in roll film. They are aerial (mapping) stocks, not high-contrast microfilm stocks. Looking at the specifications sheet, both films can be developed to the same contrast, so I assume that the 80 is just as forgiving as the 200. Aviphot has a different look than T-Max, but it's just as "world class." It's not a throwback to the 1950s like some retro emulsions, it's fully modern, tight-grained, and sharp. 1 hour ago, Martin B said: They might even pay $30 for one roll of this rebranded Leica film. Have you seen the price of film lately? $30 would be high, but not unheard of. It's what you'll pay at tourist shops. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 17 Share #23 Posted June 17 (edited) If this Leica film is real and is rebranded Adox it’s going to be 50% more expensive just for the red dot 🔴 on the box, but I expect some will claim it has special coatings! Edited June 17 by earleygallery 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 17 Share #24 Posted June 17 5 hours ago, Peter49 said: So Leica is releasing a new black and white film – "Leica Monopan 50". If you read the article, it’s pretty clear this is based on Agfa’s AviPhot surveillance stock. High contrast, sharp edges, minimal tonal range – exactly what you don’t want for expressive black and white photography. It is far, far from clear it is going to be a high contrast minimal tonal range film. What wold be the point? Besides which Agfa AviPhot (as been said by @BernardC ) isn't a high contrast copy film it is a aerial surveillance film which requires tones to distinguish features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxj Posted June 18 Share #25 Posted June 18 It's official and out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted June 18 Share #26 Posted June 18 (edited) £10. I thought it would be significantly more than that. Recommended cameras are the M6, M-A (typ 127) and MP. That's a relief, I was a bit worried that my M-A might be too old. 😂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 18 by wattsy 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422205-leica-monopan-50-film/?do=findComment&comment=5819820'>More sharing options...
HPFM Posted June 18 Share #27 Posted June 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) …if you push the button for „buy“ you are told that the film will be available from august, 21… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted June 18 Author Share #28 Posted June 18 Nice.. i have always wanted to try the adox HR50 but its developers put me away… now that it stated ilford DDX, it’s more accessible here.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted June 19 Share #29 Posted June 19 16 hours ago, wattsy said: £10. I thought it would be significantly more than that. Recommended cameras are the M6, M-A (typ 127) and MP. That's a relief, I was a bit worried that my M-A might be too old. 😂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Might try it in my 1925 IA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 19 Share #30 Posted June 19 On 6/17/2025 at 10:39 PM, earleygallery said: ..... but I expect some will claim it has special coatings! An added diffusion layer to enhance the 'Leica glow'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarkleshark Posted July 2 Share #31 Posted July 2 Leicausa store website says $10 coming on Aug 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted July 2 Share #32 Posted July 2 You can get HR-50 already now for less than €7 incl. VAT from Fotoimpex. Even less pr. roll if buying 30.5m. Some may prefer to wait until August and pay more. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 3 Author Share #33 Posted July 3 (edited) I will run out my delta and tmax soon.. may be the HR50 will be my replacement for fomapan 100, i always bulk roll bw films but i might be tempted to get the leica branded roll Edited July 3 by jakontil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted July 3 Share #34 Posted July 3 16 hours ago, nitroplait said: You can get HR-50 already now for less than €7 incl. VAT from Fotoimpex. Even less pr. roll if buying 30.5m. Some may prefer to wait until August and pay more. That's true for most locations within the EU, but it should be cheaper to buy Leica's version in small quantities (to try out) when it becomes available worldwide. Those who try it and love it can then buy larger quantities directly from Fotoimpex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 3 Share #35 Posted July 3 Having used HR-50 for about two years now I wonder if Leica have thought through a very basic question about the development of Monopan 50? While HR-50 is a full-toned film and can be developed in many common developers (I use Adox FX-39) the data sheet does highlight what may be a problem for what I would guess will be the majority of photographers who send their film out for processing, and that is how the film is agitated in the tank. It's a copy film and doesn't take kindly to either continuous agitation or the normal inversion regime of three or four inversions on the minute. Since I started using it the data sheet has changed from a 'gentle swirl' once a minute to one very gentle inversion, both are equivalent but I still use a swirl technique. Not doing this gentle technique even with one of the recommended developers will lead to contrasty negatives, and continuous agitation in a Jobo tank is worse. So what happens at the lab, if they hand develop film OK, but they may not know what is says on the datasheet, and with a machine it will be going through with all the other films. Have Leica shot themselves in the foot? 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterD Posted July 3 Share #36 Posted July 3 Well, I said somewhere that I might get a couple of rolls and try it! Well I have, or at least they are in the pipeline. I was in my local camera shop buying various films to take on holiday and when they discovered that I have an M3 they asked me if I would like to put my name on their waiting list. So I put myself down for a couple. Due late August, date not committed to, but hey, its a delivery from Leica, so... 😉 They said that they hadn't been able to ascertain what the film actually was except that it is definitively German. Leica weren't saying, but the shop said some characteristics were typical of one manufacturer, others of another. I think that on balance they suspect Adox. The guy in the shop said that they couldn't work out how much demand there would be for it, at least in their shop, but it might be different in a big shop/city. Anyway, on all fronts, let's see. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted July 4 Author Share #37 Posted July 4 9 hours ago, 250swb said: Having used HR-50 for about two years now I wonder if Leica have thought through a very basic question about the development of Monopan 50? While HR-50 is a full-toned film and can be developed in many common developers (I use Adox FX-39) the data sheet does highlight what may be a problem for what I would guess will be the majority of photographers who send their film out for processing, and that is how the film is agitated in the tank. It's a copy film and doesn't take kindly to either continuous agitation or the normal inversion regime of three or four inversions on the minute. Since I started using it the data sheet has changed from a 'gentle swirl' once a minute to one very gentle inversion, both are equivalent but I still use a swirl technique. Not doing this gentle technique even with one of the recommended developers will lead to contrasty negatives, and continuous agitation in a Jobo tank is worse. So what happens at the lab, if they hand develop film OK, but they may not know what is says on the datasheet, and with a machine it will be going through with all the other films. Have Leica shot themselves in the foot? This is interesting! Thanks for the headup… im always rough with my agitation, be in swirl or inversion.. lol i might have to watch out for this particular film.. i might use developer ilfotec HC, that should be fine steve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted July 4 Share #38 Posted July 4 (edited) 4 hours ago, jakontil said: im always rough with my agitation, be in swirl or inversion I developed HR-50 only with Adox FX-39 (good results), HR-dev and XTOL (both bad results) so can't chime in on ilfotec, but surely you'll need to change you agitation method for something gentler. I develop my film by spinning the reels in my Paterson tank with the stick, HR-50 needed 30s of very gentle spinning back and forth and then 1 spin every minute. More vigorous procedures in my experience lead to blown out highlights. Edited July 4 by Bliz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 4 Share #39 Posted July 4 5 hours ago, jakontil said: This is interesting! Thanks for the headup… im always rough with my agitation, be in swirl or inversion.. lol i might have to watch out for this particular film.. i might use developer ilfotec HC, that should be fine steve? Here is a link to a guy I trust for film and developer reviews because you can see he's making neutral representative photos as illustrations for each test. Alex Luyckx - http://www.alexluyckx.com/blog/2021/08/09/film-review-blog-no-74-adox-hr-50/ and you'll see Ilfotec HC does work with HR-50 at 1:63 but then read the FX-39 review and conclusion. Click the banner for other film and developer reviews. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugoland Posted July 7 Share #40 Posted July 7 Am 4.7.2025 um 08:00 schrieb Bliz: I developed HR-50 only with Adox FX-39 (good results) Same good results with FX-39 here. I use a 590nm Red filter. Chris Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422205-leica-monopan-50-film/?do=findComment&comment=5829966'>More sharing options...
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