mottykytu Posted April 19 Share #1 Posted April 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seller offer me this Summicron 35mm f2 V4 for a fair discount (I have to pay under 1500 $ for it) It this scratch acceptable? I know scratch onthe rear elements will affect stronger than the front but seller say It not affect the photo quality ! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420612-is-this-scratch-acceptable/?do=findComment&comment=5789050'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted April 19 Share #2 Posted April 19 Do you see any effect on your photographs? If not, acceptable considering the price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottykytu Posted April 19 Author Share #3 Posted April 19 (edited) Dupplicated Edited April 19 by mottykytu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottykytu Posted April 19 Author Share #4 Posted April 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jaapv said: Do you see any effect on your photographs? If not, acceptable considering the price. Yeah that is the point, for that price it will be a blind buy, I cannot test it directly now. The photo above was sent to me by seller I can return it but it may be complicated and take time. But the price is too good. Edited April 19 by mottykytu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted April 19 Share #5 Posted April 19 44 minutes ago, mottykytu said: this scratch acceptable? To me, no it is not. I would not buy any lens with a mark on the rear element, that’s my position but we all have a different tolerance for this sort of thing. Most scratches have little to no effect on the final image but the closer to the sensor it is, the higher the chance of it having an impact. If you decide to go for it, test it at small apertures on white walls/skys at min focus. Also shoot into bright sources of light and see if it flares more than expected. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 19 Share #6 Posted April 19 It is on the edge. One could even consider painting it out wil a minimal amount of Matt black. Heresy, I know… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos cruz Posted April 19 Share #7 Posted April 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looks more like a crack than a scratch to me. I remember testing lens with similar flaw you could tell when shooting against sun that the quality was off in some sections of the image. I resigned. Test it if possible and then decide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted April 19 Share #8 Posted April 19 This is a “no” for me unless testing is possible prior to purchase. A scratch or crack could indicate mishandling or rough handling. There could be other damage unseen, roughness in the rings when turned etc. Easily determined with hands on, difficult otherwise. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted April 19 Share #9 Posted April 19 You get what you pay for … no price is “too good”. It’s cheap for a reason. Hard pass if it were me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted April 19 Share #10 Posted April 19 If you accept his word that the lens still performs, then you may not be able to return it...as you have made an agreement, which would add to his weight selling the lens with full disclosure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted April 19 Share #11 Posted April 19 Without checking it in person? No unless free returns are accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted April 20 Share #12 Posted April 20 id avoid. looks like a crack (possibly been dropped) and the giant hair in the elements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 20 Share #13 Posted April 20 Even if I deem it acceptable for a low price, personally I would spend more for a better example. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted April 20 Share #14 Posted April 20 If I owned this lens I would keep it. As a buyer I would stay away from buying it. A scratch or crack did not just appear without something hitting the lens; and the lens is not coded; and $1500 is still a fair bit of money. I know that many people are happy dealing with individuals or eBay but I very much believe that it is best to buy from a legitimate dealer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted April 20 Share #15 Posted April 20 Sorry for the homely... "But price is soon forgot and quality is long remembered." I don't buy anything unless I'm sure I'll always want to enjoy it without any qualms. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillasludge Posted April 20 Share #16 Posted April 20 Thats a strange place for damage unless it was disassembled improperly at some point. It looks like someone tried removing the rear element with a small screwdriver. The resale value when you try to sell it will be low and you will have to explain the issue over and over again. Not worth it to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanillasludge Posted April 20 Share #17 Posted April 20 (edited) Lightened to view the damage. Hard no to me. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 20 by Vanillasludge 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420612-is-this-scratch-acceptable/?do=findComment&comment=5789169'>More sharing options...
Crem Posted April 20 Share #18 Posted April 20 (edited) Personally, I wouldn't buy it. I've had sellers tell me things like "doesn't impact the image", but when I ask them how exactly they tested it... they don't have much of an answer. Did they test all sorts of lighting conditions? from the side? straight on bright sun? At what apertures? What distances? For a lens like this I'd want to test it myself in-person, but even then I'd avoid it for another big reason: selling it in the future is going to be difficult. Especially if it ends up being a crack and not a scratch. Edited April 20 by Crem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted April 20 Share #19 Posted April 20 I would not buy the lens. The position of the scratch/mark seems to be rather unusual for a kind of „normal“ scratch/damage. What did the previous owner do to cause the scratch? 🤔🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 20 Share #20 Posted April 20 If it’s just a scratch it is not going to make any difference at all. Looks like some loss of paint too however which makes me wonder if it’s more than just a scratch. I would be wary buying it without inspection. I wonder if someone has taken it apart at some point and damaged it putting it back together… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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