pgk Posted February 22 Share #761 Posted February 22 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Chris W said: It's funny, as the discussion goes on we're getting further and further away from the features that are quintessential Leica M. Different size, no viewfinder window, no shutter, but still some want to retain the M mount. I suppose it would have to have some sort of link to justify the 'M' tag. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smogg Posted February 22 Share #762 Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, pgk said: Different size, no viewfinder window, no shutter, but still some want to retain the M mount. I suppose it would have to have some sort of link to justify the 'M' tag. It's strange that no one mentioned instant printing like in Sofort in their wish list😝 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted February 22 Share #763 Posted February 22 M-mount not enough? They did it before, no reason to change now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 22 Author Share #764 Posted February 22 4 hours ago, Chris W said: I won't buy a camera without mechanical shutter. It's funny, as the discussion goes on we're getting further and further away from the features that are quintessential Leica M. I shot a Leica M6 with film rated at ISO800 on tour with bands in the early 90's. No autofocus, no EVF, no IBIS, no low light performance etc... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I agree, although I think it may happen, It is defińitely not my preference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleElmar135mm Posted February 22 Share #765 Posted February 22 Recently, another "historic" M lens came onto the market, based on an old invoice. Unfortunately, there have been hardly any new lenses for some time. The same applies to the SL series. Here it were “purchases” from Sigma or Panasonic. Is this an indication that there are fundamental changes in the M-lens landscape - e.g. a different bayonet, more Noctilux-lenses, longer focal lengths coordinated with an EVF, even shorter close-up focus? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted February 22 Share #766 Posted February 22 I agree that there was nothing really new for a long time, just some limited editions, some re-issues. But I think this is a question for a seperate topic/thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjroroek Posted February 23 Share #767 Posted February 23 Advertisement (gone after registration) En then god shaped perfection. After 3 succesfull lines (q,m,sl) it should be possible to create a perfect combination. And only continu with one line Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 23 Share #768 Posted February 23 10 hours ago, TeleElmar135mm said: Unfortunately, there have been hardly any new lenses for some time. There are hundreds of superb M lenses available. Why do you want more? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrichie Posted February 23 Share #769 Posted February 23 Having given this more thought after reading all these threads, a Q with an L mount would be the best solution, and the M remains as is. It would make sense for the ranges. I would like a 40/43mm M lens FWIW. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 23 Share #770 Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, jrichie said: Having given this more thought after reading all these threads, a Q with an L mount would be the best solution, and the M remains as is. It would make sense for the ranges. I would like a 40/43mm M lens FWIW. I would also like to shoot on 40/43. Unfortunately, the M does not have a frame for 40/43, and the EVF is not a full replacement for the OVF for me, where I can see what is happening outside the frame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 23 Share #771 Posted February 23 If the M series development went along the path of improving the OVF and the electronic frames in it, I would be happy. Then Leica could produce a lot of new lenses with new focal lengths. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 23 Share #772 Posted February 23 Now the lever in front allows you to estimate how the framing of the scene will look with frames of standard pairs. And if the frame were electronic, then it would be possible to set up favorite focal lengths in the menu (based on the user's optics) and cycle through them before a possible change of lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 23 Author Share #773 Posted February 23 (edited) 18 minutes ago, jrichie said: Having given this more thought after reading all these threads, a Q with an L mount would be the best solution, and the M remains as is. It would make sense for the ranges. I would like a 40/43mm M lens FWIW. Have you seen the size of the 35mm f1.4 TL on a CL?. It’s pretty big and that’s a crop sensor. I just can’t see a viable model here for Leica. There is not a single current L mount lens made by them that would work well on an interchangeable Q but we do have many M lenses that would pair very nicely with an EVF M. It’s the path of least resistance for Leica and low risk should it not work out. I think it will though if it’s executed well and priced ok. Edited February 23 by costa43 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 23 Share #774 Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, costa43 said: There is not a single current L mount lens made by them that would work well on an interchangeable Q but we do have many M lenses that would pair very nicely with an EVF M. The best two things about the Q line are its incredible lens, matched perfectly with the sensor and colour science. And it's immediacy - very portable and pretty good auto-focus. If you wanted a Q with interchangeable M lenses, that exists elsewhere with numerous 3rd party manufacturers and M adapters. Like the Sigma FP, FPL for example. Any number of Sony, Fuji, Nikon and Canon bodies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 23 Share #775 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, jjroroek said: En then god shaped perfection. After 3 succesfull lines (q,m,sl) it should be possible to create a perfect combination. And only continu with one line Not really unless they had only one customer with only one style photographing the same thing all the time. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleElmar135mm Posted February 23 Share #776 Posted February 23 vor 30 Minuten schrieb Chris W: There are hundreds of superb M lenses available. Why do you want more? Since some years there are missing some new developments in the M-series. The superb 24mm and the 18mm are no longer available. The same for smaller 75mm and 90 mm, same for the 135mm. Yes, there were the two APOs but the rest are "old" developmentes. These are not bad but the SL35mm has here in the forum a hype but many are not satisfied full open with a modern M-Camera. So I think there will be someting in the pipeline but what is the direction? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 23 Share #777 Posted February 23 There is a bit of a dissonance here. Leica is attempting to modernize the M camera bodies whilst at the same time promoting the lenses as the best of vintage. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 23 Share #778 Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, jaapv said: There is a bit of a dissonance here. Leica is attempting to modernize the M camera bodies whilst at the same time promoting the lenses as the best of vintage. No dissonance. Leica wants to sell the same product twice (a normal desire for a manufacturer is to make money without investing in development), and users want innovation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 23 Share #779 Posted February 23 Yes but why do they bring out M11 type cameras at the same time as pre-aspherical Summiluxes? It gives a sense of loss of direction or maybe two schools of thinking competing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 23 Share #780 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, jaapv said: Yes but why do they bring out M11 type cameras at the same time as pre-aspherical Summiluxes? It gives a sense of loss of direction or maybe two schools of thinking competing. They just make money on whatever they can. I'm not sure there's a strategy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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