rxj Posted February 21 Share #721 Posted February 21 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'll miss the window on it for sure. Would have hoped it would be hybrid. Let's see what the Leica Mv brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Hi rxj, Take a look here EVF M rumoured. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted February 21 Share #722 Posted February 21 32 minutes ago, costa43 said: An EVF only M could also open up more conversions of other vintage glass to M mount. Without rangefinder coupling it would be easier to do. Could be interesting. With special RF coupling too. The Summicron 50/2 DR can focus from 0.5m to infinity with M11 and Visoflex 2 sans goggles for instance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22 Share #723 Posted February 22 6 hours ago, Herr Barnack said: OMG no! Don't make it smaller!! The same people who yelled about the M240 being fat will yell about the M12 being too small!! 😳 But the M240 WAS too fat! Measure it. A full 0.5 mm !!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted February 22 Share #724 Posted February 22 29 minutes ago, jaapv said: But the M240 WAS too fat! Measure it. A full 0.5 mm !!! Leica specifications say a difference of 3mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22 Share #725 Posted February 22 Correct. They included the thumb wheel which is not present on the M9/8. It caused a storm in a teacup at introduction. Some people still believe in the resulting Internet turmoil However, the body thickness is virtually identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 22 Share #726 Posted February 22 Haha fat bottoms cannot lie 🤣 M11 and M240 bottom plate: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5761556'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 22 Share #727 Posted February 22 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rumors also say that the M12 will be 3 mm lower. That would be great! It gives an even nicer shape and more in line with the film M's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #728 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, evikne said: Rumors also say that the M12 will be 3 mm lower. That would be great! It gives an even nicer shape and more in line with the film M's. M12 or EVF-M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 22 Share #729 Posted February 22 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Smogg said: M12 or EVF-M? Leica Rumors says M12. But it could easily be a case of confusion with the EVF-M. Edited February 22 by evikne 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22 Share #730 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, lct said: Haha fat bottoms cannot lie 🤣 M11 and M240 bottom plate: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I said M9/8. The whole point of the M10/11 is that they have been shrunk to film M size, approximately. So yes they can lie by making the wrong comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #731 Posted February 22 There are classic dirty tricks of manufacturers' marketing aimed at misleading buyers when comparing with competitors' cameras. For example, on the Leica website the weight of the cameras is indicated without batteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 22 Share #732 Posted February 22 I bet that’s true of all camera manufacturers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #733 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, andybarton said: I bet that’s true of all camera manufacturers The Sony and Hasselblad websites indicate the correct weight, I haven't checked other manufacturers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #734 Posted February 22 Canon, Nikon also indicate the honest weight. Apparently, Leica assumes that there is an option to use the camera without a battery😝 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #735 Posted February 22 14 hours ago, Ray Vonn said: A successful hit with instagrammers/Youtubers/those that can't be arsed with all that challening exposure triangle stuff no doubt. If that rumour's true of course. But why take something that is unique (Leica M) and place it in direct competition with a mature product that is very successful (Fuji rangefinder 'style')? It makes no sense to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #736 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Smogg said: There are classic dirty tricks of manufacturers' marketing aimed at misleading buyers when comparing with competitors' cameras. For example, on the Leica website the weight of the cameras is indicated without batteries. Anyone contemplating spending $5k to $8k on a camera should at least go to a dealer and hold it in person. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #737 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Chris W said: Anyone contemplating spending $5k to $8k on a camera should at least go to a dealer and hold it in person. That's right. Don't trust marketing materials, you have to hold the camera yourself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 22 Share #738 Posted February 22 Actually I don’t think that smaller and lighter equals better. The M8 series felt better in my hands than the film M and M 10 do. Plus I like to have a bit of mass on a camera. Less motion blur, more stable viewfinder. As for carrying the camera and lenses: when I go shopping with my wife I have to carry far more weight than any camera and I don’t mind. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 22 Share #739 Posted February 22 25 minutes ago, jaapv said: Actually I don’t think that smaller and lighter equals better. The M8 series felt better in my hands than the film M and M 10 do. Plus I like to have a bit of mass on a camera. Less motion blur, more stable viewfinder. As for carrying the camera and lenses: when I go shopping with my wife I have to carry far more weight than any camera and I don’t mind. If you think the weight is not enough, you can always add extra weight to the neck strap😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5761666'>More sharing options...
Chris W Posted February 22 Share #740 Posted February 22 Big difference between the weight and bulk of any M series body and your average DSLR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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