EVF M rumoured

[lct]

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2 minutes ago, hexx said:

Out of curiosity, are you keeping your pre-order in then?

My dealer will check if the autozoom function has been conserved, in this case i will order the camera.

[la1402]

4 minutes ago, lct said:

My dealer will check if the autozoom function has been conserved, in this case i will order the camera.

I could not make that work in the demo, but that may be just me.

[Wipeout]

I’ve just placed an order. This will be replacing my M10, which I’ve always found tricky to focus with the 50mm f/1.4 Summilux wide open. I really prefer being able to see exposure and depth of field directly through an EVF. I tried the Visoflex but couldn’t get on with it; too slow, low-res, and awkwardly protruding. I do like using the SL2 with an M adapter, but I still prefer the M10’s rangefinder form factor. 

[IkarusJohn]

Almost exactly as expected.  Well done Leica. Sitting alongside the M11, this makes perfect sense.

[lct]

25 minutes ago, la1402 said:

I could not make that work in the demo, but that may be just me.

According to Sean Reid, « One can set the camera to automatically magnify the finder view when the lens' focus ring is rotated » so there is no problem here apparently.

[SrMi]

Just now, lct said:

According to Sean Reid, « One can set the camera to automatically magnify the finder view when the lens' focus ring is rotated » so there is no problem here apparently.

@elmars discusses that in his review and finds that one needs to move the focusing ring quite a bit to engage magnification. I wonder how it compares with M11 + Visoflex

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1 hour ago, hexx said:

Sigh, I said it's a Q with M mount.

Sigh. It's not a Q. I't an electrified Rolleiflex with some parts dropped.

[LocalHero1953]

I've been in the pub with my mates for the last five hours. I've come back to find the room full of toys and dummies thrown everywhere.

I'm sure this will sell well - not to many members of this forum, and not to me, but I doubt that was ever the plan.

[newtoleica]

Just back from Red Dot, where I had a chat with Leica Rep and played with the new M EV1, plus nice chats with come other photographers...

I tried the camera with a 35 Lux, my 24 Lux and a WATE. I set it up to only focus aid (magnify) using the button by the shutter. That gave me the advantage of a whole view in a nice detailed EVF and a magnify at the touch of a button if I felt I wanted it. The camera is least distracting when set up this way for me, but you can have any combination of peaking or magnify on auto (move the lens), options button or the frame line lever. So very configurable.

 I was deeply sceptical at first but the camera handles just like (a slightly lighter) M11, with a superb EVF that you can focus with full view for all but critical applications. It's fast, snappy, almost unnoticeable black out. It's ideal with longer and very wide lenses compared to a visioflex. You can do everything you can with a normal M, so nothing lost.... 

It's most definitely nothing like a Q.... Its resemblance is only as the Q is modelled on an M.

Chatting with the rep, Leica wanted to make something simple and reliable that just gave users and EVF and an ability to customise focus aids with good haptics for a broad range of users. It's for M users who want an EVF but don't want to fiddle with the visoflex and to tempt potential Q users into the M line... and lens sales. 

Hits the spot nicely in my view. I'm likely to get one instead of my Q2 to complement my M10M.

Edited 5 hours ago by newtoleica

[Smogg]

A mountain gave birth to a mouse! The developers must have had a blast reading the nearly 200 pages of speculation about possible manual focus assistance options. I can imagine their thoughts: We're a small company, with only 1.5 programmers. Who are all these people? What do they want from us? Our goal is to sell off the remaining M11 kits, not invent something new. Yes, we know Nikon and Canon have made something convenient for manual focus, but... we're a small company...

[carlosgavina]

1 minute ago, Smogg said:

A mountain gave birth to a mouse! The developers must have had a blast reading the nearly 200 pages of speculation about possible manual focus assistance options. I can imagine their thoughts: We're a small company, with only 1.5 programmers. Who are all these people? What do they want from us? Our goal is to sell off the remaining M11 kits, not invent something new. Yes, we know Nikon and Canon have made something convenient for manual focus, but... we're a small company...

Wrong priorities or bad planning imo. They already have eye detection in other cameras. Just make it zoom in directly into the eye when focusing a lens. That alone would be an enormous improvement in usability. 

(I work in software)

[DadDadDaddyo]

5 minutes ago, newtoleica said:

almost unnoticeable black out.

That's one often left off of the list of advantages to an optical finder: actually being able to see the subject at the moment of exposure. 

[evikne]

6 minutes ago, Smogg said:

A mountain gave birth to a mouse! The developers must have had a blast reading the nearly 200 pages of speculation about possible manual focus assistance options. I can imagine their thoughts: We're a small company, with only 1.5 programmers. Who are all these people? What do they want from us? Our goal is to sell off the remaining M11 kits, not invent something new. Yes, we know Nikon and Canon have made something convenient for manual focus, but... we're a small company...

I am sure they will continue to develop this camera with new and exciting features. Let's start a new thread about the M EV2! 😄

[rxj]

On 8/24/2025 at 3:41 AM, Alexander108 said:

So, no source, right?

You asked me for a source? Leica from the future. Nailed those specs all those months ago you didn't believe.

Edited 5 hours ago by rxj

[SrMi]

6 minutes ago, carlosgavina said:

Wrong priorities or bad planning imo. They already have eye detection in other cameras. Just make it zoom in directly into the eye when focusing a lens. That alone would be an enormous improvement in usability. 

(I work in software)

Yuck! You forgot this is still an M where even adding IBIS is controversial. I certainly wouldn't like subject detection in that camera. Simplicity rules! Also, the firmware and functionality seems to be very close to the firmware of other M11 models. New features may come with the next generation.

[JNK100]

1 hour ago, Bliz said:

Anyway now more than ever the comparison with something like a a7cr is unkind to Leica. You really have to want that red dot to favor it, considering it just relies on peaking and magnification. 

I really thought they had something better in mind to make manual lenses nice to use on a evf camera. If i think about my own experience what made me buy a m10r to complement my film m was how not very nice it is to use manual lenses on my a7c. Now for the same price of the Leica you could buy a a7c ii, the whole voigtlander E mount lineup and have money to spare. Worse menus, yeah. I talk Sony just because i know the system.

The Sony is a decent camera but has an awful EVF in my view.

[Bliz]

27 minutes ago, JNK100 said:

The Sony is a decent camera but has an awful EVF in my view

That's true, the evf isn't anything to write home about. Still you can easily buy a a7c ii for around 1800€ new, and it's lighter, smaller, has ibis and excellent af the day you want it.

All I'm saying is I expected a bit more effort from Leica to develop a good solution to focus manual lenses on a evf, while it seems they just put together a camera with what they already had and charged 8k for it.

Edited 5 hours ago by Bliz

[hexx]

5 minutes ago, Bliz said:

All I'm saying is I expected a bit more effort from Leica to develop a good solution to focus manual lenses on a evf, while it seems they just put together a camera with what they already had and charged 8k for it.

And that's exactly the problem I have with it. It's really lazy release. It's the tech from Q/SL/whatever EVF based camera when it comes to focusing aids without any other things those other cameras provide (AF, stabilisation, video...). So you're getting manual focus only camera with MF aids that have been around for ages. 

[Wipeout]

56 minutes ago, newtoleica said:

 I was deeply sceptical at first but the camera handles just like (a slightly lighter) M11, with a superb EVF that you can focus with full view for all but critical applications. It's fast, snappy, almost unnoticeable black out. It's ideal with longer and very wide lenses compared to a visioflex. You can do everything you can with a normal M, so nothing lost.... 

Hits the spot nicely in my view. I'm likely to get one instead of my Q2 to complement my M10M.

That's really helpful, thank you. I've placed my order and can't wait!

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[newtoleica]

1 minute ago, hexx said:

And that's exactly the problem I have with it. It's really lazy release. It's the tech from Q/SL/whatever EVF based camera when it comes to focusing aids without any other things those other cameras provide (AF, stabilisation, video...). So you're getting manual focus only camera with MF aids that have been around for ages. 

That was my thought when picking it up.... BUT

The superb EVF and the implementation of this IN AN M body makes it a delightful camera to hold and I'm sure its very useable.

I'd rather they did this than us all beta testing something innovative but funky....

Don't dis it until you have tried it....