charlesphoto99 Posted Friday at 02:54 PM Share #2821 Posted Friday at 02:54 PM Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 minutes ago, NigelG said: I doubt most people are even aware that the M has a rangefinder 😉 The rangefinder is the reason people buy it. The rangefinder is also the reason we see so many minty used ones for sale (and that was true in the film days as well). 😂 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrozenInTime Posted Friday at 03:12 PM Share #2822 Posted Friday at 03:12 PM The reason I bought into rangefinders was for the quality and because they were small, as were the lenses. SLR and full frame mirrorless cameras and especially AF lenses still cannot compete on size. I think the EVF-M will be a success; M rangefinder sales will continue, and may even increase in numbers, as the M-system will cover more scenarios, including uniquely 35mm film. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted Friday at 03:56 PM Share #2823 Posted Friday at 03:56 PM vor 59 Minuten schrieb charlesphoto99: The rangefinder is the reason people buy it. The rangefinder is also the reason we see so many minty used ones for sale (and that was true in the film days as well). 😂 The reason we see so many mint used ones is as many are aiming for the latest and greatest. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted Friday at 04:03 PM Share #2824 Posted Friday at 04:03 PM vor 48 Minuten schrieb FrozenInTime: The reason I bought into rangefinders was for the quality and because they were small, as were the lenses. SLR and full frame mirrorless cameras and especially AF lenses still cannot compete on size. I think the EVF-M will be a success; M rangefinder sales will continue, and may even increase in numbers, as the M-system will cover more scenarios, including uniquely 35mm film. I also think the EVF-M will be a success. Users will buy them as an addition to their others regular RF M cameras just because they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted Friday at 04:07 PM Share #2825 Posted Friday at 04:07 PM 58 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said: The rangefinder is the reason people buy it. [...] People? I must not be part of it then. I bought my M gear for compactness and M lenses in the first place. I had nothing against RFs but i've been using (d)SLRs too, especially for my job where the only time i used a RF was with the R-D1 because the Nikon i used then was broken 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catacore Posted Friday at 04:56 PM Share #2826 Posted Friday at 04:56 PM And there is a YT video from the rumors guy: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted Friday at 05:36 PM Share #2827 Posted Friday at 05:36 PM Advertisement (gone after registration) I really hope it is a mockup as design wise (esthetic) it aint nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted Friday at 05:53 PM Share #2828 Posted Friday at 05:53 PM We still haven't seen anything other than mockups. Leica has really managed to keep its cards close to its chest this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted Friday at 05:53 PM Share #2829 Posted Friday at 05:53 PM The mockup design does not make any sense to me. The upper part must be almost empty without optical rangefinder? IMHO, Leica could make an EVF-M almost as small as a Q. I would love to see such smaller size - which would be fully in line with Barnack's spirit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catacore Posted Friday at 06:06 PM Share #2830 Posted Friday at 06:06 PM 12 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: The mockup design does not make any sense to me. The upper part must be almost empty without optical rangefinder? IMHO, Leica could make an EVF-M almost as small as a Q. I would love to see such smaller size - which would be fully in line with Barnack's spirit. Not quite sure what physical difference are you talking about. Maybe 9mm lenght-wise? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5871061'>More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted Friday at 06:10 PM Share #2831 Posted Friday at 06:10 PM Maybe could be even smaller, back to the roots: https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object/nmah_834692 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Blanko Posted Friday at 06:16 PM Share #2832 Posted Friday at 06:16 PM (edited) vor 10 Minuten schrieb catacore: Not quite sure what physical difference are you talking about. Maybe 9mm lenght-wise? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You may see the significant difference also in the top view. At least for the Q2. Edited Friday at 06:17 PM by Robert Blanko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted Friday at 06:27 PM Share #2833 Posted Friday at 06:27 PM 11 minutes ago, Robert Blanko said: Maybe could be even smaller, back to the roots: https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object/nmah_834692 One of the silly solutions that's crossed my mind is to have two windows at the back, like a Barnack (LTM) Leica. One window would be for the EVF, and the other would be for the rangefinder. That way everybody is (un)happy! Early Alpa Reflex cameras had this too, presumably because focusing on a primitive screen wasn't great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted Friday at 06:30 PM Share #2834 Posted Friday at 06:30 PM 1 minute ago, BernardC said: One of the silly solutions that's crossed my mind is to have two windows at the back, like a Barnack (LTM) Leica. One window would be for the EVF, and the other would be for the rangefinder. That way everybody is (un)happy! Early Alpa Reflex cameras had this too, presumably because focusing on a primitive screen wasn't great. You forgot the third optical finder in the hotshoe (as on my IID with a 3.5cm lens). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted Friday at 10:28 PM Share #2835 Posted Friday at 10:28 PM 4 hours ago, Robert Blanko said: IMHO, Leica could make an EVF-M almost as small as a Q. I would love to see such smaller size - which would be fully in line with Barnack's spirit. well, they Should ideally make it the size of a iiiG, with no video functions hopefully they don't release a set of "new" cheaper re-badged LLL lenses from china as a kit 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexx Posted Friday at 11:03 PM Share #2836 Posted Friday at 11:03 PM Rumours sites as they go, I tend to follow leicarumors rather than mirrorlessrumors. Personal preference I guess. But one comes with integrity, the other with a clickbait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted yesterday at 09:34 AM Share #2837 Posted yesterday at 09:34 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: I really hope it is a mockup as design wise (esthetic) it aint nice. I agree... the comparison made by Ict (M1) is suggestive... but a MD look is excessive... MD was a lab camera - style didn't matter. The classic Leica logo designed onto the black body is ridicolous, and for me (always oriented towards chromes) that large flat clean surface is ugly... and a red dot would not make it better. Edited yesterday at 09:35 AM by luigi bertolotti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted yesterday at 09:40 AM Share #2838 Posted yesterday at 09:40 AM 16 hours ago, catacore said: And there is a YT video from the rumors guy: "I have sources that actuallt test the camera..." 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted yesterday at 09:45 AM Share #2839 Posted yesterday at 09:45 AM 11 hours ago, frame-it said: well, they Should ideally make it the size of a iiiG, with no video functions Mmmhhh.. apart esthetic, no space for EVF and related electronics, I think... and again it would mean a completely new design, too costly... much more than simply embedding current Visoflex (or next) to current M11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted yesterday at 10:52 AM Share #2840 Posted yesterday at 10:52 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, luigi bertolotti said: Mmmhhh.. apart esthetic, no space for EVF and related electronics, I think... and again it would mean a completely new design, too costly... much more than simply embedding current Visoflex (or next) to current M11. nah the iiig was just a little thinner than a CL [digital], and they can easily fit a full frame sensor inside the CL body, if they want to... iiig = 136 x 39 x 65 mm CL [digital] = 131 x 78 x 45 mm Edited yesterday at 10:53 AM by frame-it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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