Q3 with 43mm APO f2

[Viv]

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26 minutes ago, kirkmc said:

The distance to the subject is a factor of focal length, assuming you want to have your subject take up the same amount of space in the frame. In your examples above, you don't show anything in the background of your subject, which suggests that nothing changes. 

Focal length determines distance, which affects perspective. 

No.

[Qwertynm]

1 hour ago, kirkmc said:

I wish people could digest and understand this simple law of optics.

funny how this topic comes up in every other thread in the Q subforum. I suggest to you to go out with your smartphone and camera with the same eq. FL and shoot some AB testshots from the same perspective. Pretty sure there will be an AHA-effect.

on topic: I hope this rumor comes true for you guys @Olaf_ZG, @Simone_DF and others . It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Leica is expanding on the success of the Q line. 43/2 isn't really what I had hoped for as the Q3 can shoot 43mm shots at an equivalent f/2.8 and 22MP. So in my eyes there is not much to gain for me. The og Q3 remains more versatile as an allrounder and add-on to my existing cameras.

[MrFriendly]

On 8/26/2024 at 7:50 PM, jaapv said:

Interesting; within the span of this thread a speculation has turned into a rock-solid reality. Isn’t the Internet a miraculous place?

There is a reddit thread from few days ago, and the information provided about a Q with 43mm APO is too specific for it to be just made up.  Also, linguistic analysis of the author matches of the person who was banned a couple years ago from this forum for releasing information about unannounced Leica products (which turned out to be true).

[Dr. G]

6 hours ago, rxj said:

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I keep in touch with someone who is a relatively public figure when it comes to using Leica gear and has always been given preproduction cameras by Leica to try, has been invited to press events, etc.  The other day I was messaging with them and fishing for some info.  I asked in a roundabout way if something would work with the new Q that was about to be released.  The response I got was “You know better than to ask me that 😎”.  Interpret that response as you will.

[Simone_DF]

21 minutes ago, Qwertynm said:

on topic: I hope this rumor comes true for you guys @Olaf_ZG, @Simone_DF and others . It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Leica is expanding on the success of the Q line. 43/2 isn't really what I had hoped for as the Q3 can shoot 43mm shots at an equivalent f/2.8 and 22MP. So in my eyes there is not much to gain for me. The og Q3 remains more versatile as an allrounder and add-on to my existing cameras.

I understand your point, and personally I'd prefer a true 50mm, but I'd definitely buy this Q variant, since I can just crop very little to achieve 50mm, or more to get usable 75mm if needed.

[Stuart Richardson]

3 hours ago, Qwertynm said:

funny how this topic comes up in every other thread in the Q subforum. I suggest to you to go out with your smartphone and camera with the same eq. FL and shoot some AB testshots from the same perspective. Pretty sure there will be an AHA-effect.

on topic: I hope this rumor comes true for you guys @Olaf_ZG, @Simone_DF and others . It certainly wouldn't surprise me if Leica is expanding on the success of the Q line. 43/2 isn't really what I had hoped for as the Q3 can shoot 43mm shots at an equivalent f/2.8 and 22MP. So in my eyes there is not much to gain for me. The og Q3 remains more versatile as an allrounder and add-on to my existing cameras.

It's funny, it will be able to do the same, but for a longer focal length. So you can do 43mm at 2.8 and 22mp, but a Q3 with 43mm will be able to take actual portraits and telephoto shots with much better quality. So, in the end, it really comes down to if you are a wide angle biased photographer or a standard/telephoto biased shooter. I am the latter, and I would much rather have a Q that is biased towards 40mm or so and can be cropped to 75mm in a pinch, than a 28mm Q that I crop to 40 or 50mm in nearly every photo.

For example, with my SL2 I can see the shooting metadata, so I can see that 78% of the time I am using 50mm or longer, and only below 35mm for 6% of photos. So for me a Q3 43mm would be incredible.

[LocalHero1953]

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14 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

It's funny, it will be able to do the same, but for a longer focal length. So you can do 43mm at 2.8 and 22mp, but a Q3 with 43mm will be able to take actual portraits and telephoto shots with much better quality. So, in the end, it really comes down to if you are a wide angle biased photographer or a standard/telephoto biased shooter. I am the latter, and I would much rather have a Q that is biased towards 40mm or so and can be cropped to 75mm in a pinch, than a 28mm Q that I crop to 40 or 50mm in nearly every photo.

For example, with my SL2 I can see the shooting metadata, so I can see that 78% of the time I am using 50mm or longer, and only below 35mm for 6% of photos. So for me a Q3 43mm would be incredible.

Leica has done it before. Perhaps we should call the current model the Q3-M2 and the prospective one a Q3-M3.

[Olaf_ZG]

5 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

I understand your point, and personally I'd prefer a true 50mm, but I'd definitely buy this Q variant, since I can just crop very little to achieve 50mm, or more to get usable 75mm if needed.

A Q45 will leave enough space for a nice Q75/80, but let’s not even start that discussion…

[SrMi]

5 hours ago, MrFriendly said:

There is a reddit thread from few days ago, and the information provided about a Q with 43mm APO is too specific for it to be just made up.  Also, linguistic analysis of the author matches of the person who was banned a couple years ago from this forum for releasing information about unannounced Leica products (which turned out to be true).

That Reddit user believes that the new Q will be shipped next year in Q1 or Q2 and that Leica has one or two more camera launches lined up before that launch.

[Olaf_ZG]

Can’t find respective thread on reddit, but the person who’s name should not be mentioned on this forum provided very detailed info already with the launch of the q3.

While waiting for the dream to come true, I bought the film version: a g1 with 45mm planar.

[SrMi]

39 minutes ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Can’t find respective thread on reddit, but the person who’s name should not be mentioned on this forum provided very detailed info already with the launch of the q3.

While waiting for the dream to come true, I bought the film version: a g1 with 45mm planar.

The first result of the Google query "Reddit leica q3 with 43mm."

[Olaf_ZG]

@SrMiI saw that one, but didn’t saw all expanded replies… q1/q2 would be perfect, cause I still need to save up 😎

[Olaf_ZG]

Reading reddit, I have the feeling a oh-no person overthere is a member here as well… can’t imagine why somebody have so much angst for a new camera iteration…

[nemendes]

9 hours ago, Viv said:

Irrational. Cropping is a valid tool in photography. Always has been.

Nobody says that crop isnt a valid tool in photography. I am cropping my images if necessary. But insist on an idea of buying one camera and crop images all the time or criticize people that dont want to use their q series without cropping images - that's irrational exactly with your words. if leica had q3 with 50mm f2 apo or summilux 50mm, i would buy 28mm and 50mm at the same time because i need f2 for my photography and many people does. I don't want to use cropped 50mm f3.2 from 28mm lens. I have q2 monochrom and i have m10m with summilux 50mm at the same time. That's the point. 

Suggesting people 'crop your photos, crop it!!' all the time is weird. Dont worry, many photographers know that they can crop their images. 

[Segal]

On 8/26/2024 at 11:29 PM, Dr. G said:

It's not an official announcement for a camera, so it's all speculation.  You can probably get on your Leica dealers list if they've started one - or ask them to start one if they haven't.  Many dealers will put you on a list for an unconfirmed camera without taking a deposit.

Hi. Yes, I figured as much, but I'd still pre-order it Unfortunately, the shop I used to buy from (Leica NYC) recently closed, so I'm back to B&H Photo - they're great for regular stuff, but they don't take pre-orders for unannounced products, and will likely be sold out for like two years once it actually gets announced  

[Viv]

1 hour ago, nemendes said:

Nobody says that crop isnt a valid tool in photography. I am cropping my images if necessary. But insist on an idea of buying one camera and crop images all the time or criticize people that dont want to use their q series without cropping images - that's irrational exactly with your words. if leica had q3 with 50mm f2 apo or summilux 50mm, i would buy 28mm and 50mm at the same time because i need f2 for my photography and many people does. I don't want to use cropped 50mm f3.2 from 28mm lens. I have q2 monochrom and i have m10m with summilux 50mm at the same time. That's the point. 

Suggesting people 'crop your photos, crop it!!' all the time is weird. Dont worry, many photographers know that they can crop their images. 

No one said crop ALL THE TIME.

Edited August 29, 2024 by Viv

[Dr. G]

1 hour ago, nemendes said:

Nobody says that crop isnt a valid tool in photography. I am cropping my images if necessary. But insist on an idea of buying one camera and crop images all the time or criticize people that dont want to use their q series without cropping images - that's irrational exactly with your words. if leica had q3 with 50mm f2 apo or summilux 50mm, i would buy 28mm and 50mm at the same time because i need f2 for my photography and many people does. I don't want to use cropped 50mm f3.2 from 28mm lens. I have q2 monochrom and i have m10m with summilux 50mm at the same time. That's the point. 

Suggesting people 'crop your photos, crop it!!' all the time is weird. Dont worry, many photographers know that they can crop their images. 

If I'm carrying one camera and lens I'd rather stich an image to get a higher resolution, wider field of view than crop to get a tighter field of view with lower resolution and less depth of field.

But I don't use wider angles for street photography or capturing candids for the most part.  It all comes down to use case.

Edited August 29, 2024 by Dr. G

[wlaidlaw]

How apochromatic is the 28mm Summilux taken together with the processing software in the Q3. My suspicion is that it is pretty good. 

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[yst]

16 hours ago, jaapv said:

From that article: “ perspective changes are caused by the distance not by the lens per se”. It is about adapting the angle of view to the distance of the subject, which is the opposite of cropping. Exactly what I am saying. MOVE  OUT and use a longer lens to get the same FIELD of view changes the perspective STAY PUT and crop the image to the same ANGLE of view and the perspective is identical. 

Is that true even you can crop an image to the "90mm" field of view size, but it is not the look and feel of an image taken by a 90mm lens that compressed, shallow DOF telephoto lens image? 

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[jaapv]

<sigh>. I suggest that you read again. There  is NO compressed perspective Tele lens look. Perspective is  controlled by distance, irrespective of lens. However DOF will be more wide on the crop.