M10R Still Worth It?

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From the initial post, I see someone who's looking for two cameras:

1. ) On one hand a camera, that delivers on a level that current digital cameras and lenses can deliver - as easy as possible.
2. ) On the other hand a camera that let's you enjoy basically the shooting experience for itself and delivering results with a look closer to analog film but without the PIA of processing, scanning etc.

I think the M10-R is neither nor. Technically - from my head - I do not really think that Leica equipment is worth the price tag called for it at all but it may be your heart or your stomach that tell you, it's worth the money...

I found my way by using a - close to perfection - Sony A1 with some modern AF lenses to cover 1.) and a used Leica M8.2 with all it's limitations, imperfections and a CCD sensor delivering a look close to analog film to meet 2.). A M9 could match 2.) even better, if there would not be the ongoing corrosion of their sensors...

[Strmbrg]

1 hour ago, MarkPS said:

"...The more megapixels require a steady hand."

Can you explain that? Or explain your reasoning behind it. 🙂

[brickftl]

3 hours ago, Strmbrg said:

Can you explain that? Or explain your reasoning behind it. 🙂

I agree with MarkPS. Reason, more mps reveal more defects in terms of either not a fast enough shutter or less than rock solid hands/body. I briefly had a Fuji GFX50 and had difficulty initially producing tack sharp images because of all the mps.

[irenedp]

The M10r requires a steadier hand than the M9, or using higher shutter speeds (same as the S3 vs the S2, or the example above about the Fuji 50s… I had one in 2017 and it had its leaning curve).  But once that is done, it has a really nice color, the ISO capability is very good, and the Visoflex helps to get flawless definition. It took me a while to get used to it, but it’s an excellent camera. 

[Hans-Dieter Gülicher]

I have the Q2, M 10-R and S3. But my favourite is my M 10-R plus APO-Summicron 35 mm plus Visoflex 2. It`s a small and handy combo. In 2022 I was with this in Canada/Alaska (1 week Vancouver, 3 weeks Aleutes by ship and 5 weeks West-Canada by Mobil Home), in 2023 in Chile (Atacama- Cap Hoorn) and Antarctica. All the results are excellent.

[Strmbrg]

Please, do use some common sense and not just "absorb" things based on "high-claiming-frequency". This text explains my reasoning.
But, well, it really doesn't matter what I or anyone think (or "know") the physics are the same regardless. 🙂

"...Motion blur — The situation with motion blur is essentially the same. The crucial issue is over what portion of the image the blur takes place. If it is, say 1/10,000 of a frame width the blur will be 1/10,000 of the print width no matter what number of photosites you use – ignoring for a moment the fact that no current full frame DSLR can resolve 1/10,000 of the width of the frame. But let’s say the motion blur is grosser – perhaps 1/100 of the frame width. It will be 1/100 of the picture width in all three cases, independent of the film/sensor characteristics.

The place people seem to get confused is, yet again, when they look at 100% crops on their monitors and, again, forget that they are looking more closely at a smaller portion of the image when they view the image from the high photosite density camera. The blur would, indeed, cover a very slightly larger percentage of their monitor width but this is exactly counteracted by the smaller portion of the image they are viewing. .."
Myth: Diffraction and Motion Blur Worsen With More Megapixels | G Dan Mitchell Photography

[colonel]

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On 2/18/2024 at 11:30 PM, ktmrider2 said:

I have the opportunity to pick up a new M10R for US$6250 and am wondering if it is still worth it or should I look at the M11?

The M10-R is an absolutely superb camera. It is entirely a price thing, you would be happy with that and the M11.

For me, I need to get a used M10-R at least £1000 less then a used M11 for it to be worth it.

my 2 cents

Edited May 29, 2024 by colonel

[dseelig]

I have had every Leica M digital the 10 R is a great camera I do like the M 11 better but mainly for the egornomics. If the leica had stopped with the m 10 r I would've been happy.Much better the then the M 10 better dynamic range

[dugby]

I find an M10-R 50APO / 35FLE delightful as my primary camera and find the X2 a competent P&S mini-M travel-cam alternative.

so am very contented with these two

 

[7enderbender]

Is it still worth it in 2024? I’m convinced it is. I actually just bought one, refurbished from Leica and all. Could’ve gotten a used M11 for the same money, but I came to the conclusion that the M10-R is more in line with what I’m looking for. I like the brass top, extra heft, bottom plate with no port that will become redundant or break. 40mp is more that enough. 
 

[AndersPH]

On 7/6/2024 at 2:30 AM, 7enderbender said:

Is it still worth it in 2024? I’m convinced it is. I actually just bought one, refurbished from Leica and all. Could’ve gotten a used M11 for the same money, but I came to the conclusion that the M10-R is more in line with what I’m looking for. I like the brass top, extra heft, bottom plate with no port that will become redundant or break. 40mp is more that enough. 
 

I found a mint condition M10-R silver for Eur6000, good price or? 12 months warranty

[7enderbender]

On 7/11/2024 at 4:49 AM, AndersPH said:

I found a mint condition M10-R silver for Eur6000, good price or? 12 months warranty

I’ll let others with more experience chime in. I paid $7300 via the CPO program at the Leica store. I’ve seen them for less but I was happy to pay for the peace of mind and the additional warranty. 

[CP93]

I got mine for $5700 USD on Ebay in mint condition.