lct Posted January 28, 2024 Share #61 Posted January 28, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, Smogg said: For me, in order not to lose frames, at the moment the only reliable way is to shoot on the internal memory. After the internal memory is full, I copy its contents to the SD card using the appropriate menu item. Then I format the internal memory and continue shooting. Why not "DNG +JPEG first on IN" if i may ask? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smogg Posted January 29, 2024 Share #62 Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, lct said: Why not "DNG +JPEG first on IN" if i may ask? because this way I won't know when the internal memory is full Edited January 29, 2024 by Smogg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2024 Share #63 Posted January 29, 2024 15 hours ago, Smogg said: because this way I won't know when the internal memory is full You will if your camera works as expected. It should warn you this way then: Quote Internal memory full All following data will be written on the external SD card 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkphoto Posted February 3, 2024 Share #64 Posted February 3, 2024 I haven’t had an issue with SD cards since I bought my M11. I also hadn’t had an issue with the latest firmware either, until today. All of a sudden the same SD card I’ve been using keeps throwing “SD card error.” There’s still 90GB free on the card, no idea what’s going on… 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffc60 Posted February 3, 2024 Share #65 Posted February 3, 2024 7 hours ago, bkphoto said: I haven’t had an issue with SD cards since I bought my M11. I also hadn’t had an issue with the latest firmware either, until today. All of a sudden the same SD card I’ve been using keeps throwing “SD card error.” There’s still 90GB free on the card, no idea what’s going on… What are the specs of your SD card? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted February 3, 2024 Share #66 Posted February 3, 2024 On 1/24/2024 at 10:22 PM, Jono1989 said: Has anyone been able to retrieve the lost images? 2 weeks in Burgundy and I have lost all the photos including snow which is now rare for the region! I purchased and use ISOBUSTER, for all my storage device issues. https://www.isobuster.com/ Recently used it to recover a DNG that I had intentionally deleted “in camera on SD card” , and later decided I wanted the DNG. ISObuster is the fastest recovery tool I’ve used in 40years of working with such tools. For the record, the only affiliation I have with ISObuster, is that I’m a very satisfied customer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted February 5, 2024 Share #67 Posted February 5, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/2/2024 at 7:56 PM, bkphoto said: no idea what’s going on… Cards do go bad, often without warning. After extracting whatever images I can usually toss the card. I may try a low level format, first. I've tossed 3 or 4 cards in the last 10-12 years. Interesting to note that most of those were tossed shortly after purchase. Bathtub curve? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 7, 2024 Share #68 Posted February 7, 2024 In my admittedly positive experience, SD cards are the only culprit for freezes, if any. My first SD card for M11, a 64GB Sony "Tough" card, caused freezes when i bought the camera in May 2022. I tossed the Sony card then and reverted to my usual Sandisk cards with no issues whatsoever since firmware 1.6.1. Funnily enough i've been given another 64GB Sony Tough card for Xmas 2023. I planned to sell it or to use it with other cameras but curiosity was too strong so after 2 months in a drawer i've just inserted the Sony card in my M11 and formatted it with the camera. First shots, total success. The card seems even more responsive than my fastest Sandisk but i did no metering TBH. I keep the Sony card in the camera for now and will report if anything interesting happens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/386707-sd-card-issues-with-m11m11m-since-firmware-202/?do=findComment&comment=5026813'>More sharing options...
t00l1024 Posted February 9, 2024 Share #69 Posted February 9, 2024 On 2/7/2024 at 11:03 AM, lct said: In my admittedly positive experience, SD cards are the only culprit for freezes, if any. My first SD card for M11, a 64GB Sony "Tough" card, caused freezes when i bought the camera in May 2022. I tossed the Sony card then and reverted to my usual Sandisk cards with no issues whatsoever since firmware 1.6.1. Funnily enough i've been given another 64GB Sony Tough card for Xmas 2023. I planned to sell it or to use it with other cameras but curiosity was too strong so after 2 months in a drawer i've just inserted the Sony card in my M11 and formatted it with the camera. First shots, total success. The card seems even more responsive than my fastest Sandisk but i did no metering TBH. I keep the Sony card in the camera for now and will report if anything interesting happens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Your post got me to run a few tests on my M11M.... I have 2 of the exact same model/size Sony TOUGH cards that worked flawlessly on a SL2 and Canon R5. But consistently locked up my M10M when I had it. When I got my M11M, the camera froze up with this Sony card, so I switched to a non-TOUGH version and a ProGrade branded one without issue. Just reformatted the Sony SF-G64T and tried it out in the M11M: Second exposure - "Please Wait..." when attempting to review playback. Camera freeze. Restarted the camera and the second exposure never wrote to disk. Exposures three and on.... all good. I wasn't expecting this card to work, but seems to be working better than expected. I, too, will try using this card for a while and report back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 9, 2024 Share #70 Posted February 9, 2024 2 hours ago, t00l1024 said: I wasn't expecting this card to work, but seems to be working better than expected [...] Same here. The card works fine when formatted with SD Card Formatter too. Just for info. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAUDUI1 Posted February 9, 2024 Share #71 Posted February 9, 2024 I am using SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO carte SDXC jusqu'à 300 Mo/s UHS-II Class 10 U3 V90 and it works flawlessly. I am first loading the SD card en then the internal memory of 64Gb. I am only producing DNG files, as I am managing them in lightroom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 9, 2024 Share #72 Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, DBAUDUI1 said: I am using SanDisk 128GB Extreme PRO carte SDXC jusqu'à 300 Mo/s UHS-II Class 10 U3 V90 and it works flawlessly. I am first loading the SD card en then the internal memory of 64Gb. I am only producing DNG files, as I am managing them in lightroom. I have 2 m11 cameras and two exactly the same SD cards. On average, 1 of the 50 files is unreadable Edited February 9, 2024 by Smogg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted February 9, 2024 Share #73 Posted February 9, 2024 But I regularly use continuous Hi-speed. It is possible that the firmware is poorly optimized for such shooting. However, such problems have not yet arisen with the internal memory, so I stopped using direct recording to SD cards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkphoto Posted February 10, 2024 Share #74 Posted February 10, 2024 Pretty appalling how bad their firmware seems to be with SD cards. I imagine it’s the source of all the crashing issues… Leica needs to start delivering firmware worthy of the cost of their cameras. I’ve shot dozens of much cheaper digital cameras over the last decade and I’ve never had a single issue with Canon, Sony or Fuji. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 10, 2024 Share #75 Posted February 10, 2024 2 hours ago, bkphoto said: Pretty appalling how bad their firmware seems to be with SD cards. I imagine it’s the source of all the crashing issues… I would have said the same 2 years ago when i got freezes with a Sony "Tough" card, or one year ago with a Sandisk UHS2 card. Under the current 2.0.2 firmware, all my cards work perfectly so far (detail below). I did format them, at least once, with SD Card Formatter though. • UHS1 Sandisk Extreme Pro 95mb/s (64gb) • UHS1 Sandisk Extreme Pro 170mb/s (256gb) • UHS2 Sandisk Extreme Pro 300mb/s (64gb) • UHS2 Sony Tough 300mb/s (64gb) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted February 10, 2024 Share #76 Posted February 10, 2024 You have UHS1 cards among your cards as well. I do too without any problems. The M11 issues must be very complex and hidden somewhere in the software otherwise it would have been resolved a long time ago. I always wonder why not all useres of the 11 model face the identic problems. I am happy to belong to the group of users that is free of any problems. I got my M11 within 2 weeks after its launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted February 10, 2024 Share #77 Posted February 10, 2024 https://alikgriffin.com/best-memory-cards-leica-m11/ highlight from this: V90 cards have no speed advantage on M11 vs V60 cards, but might cause problems due to legacy hardware used in M11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 10, 2024 Share #78 Posted February 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Edax said: https://alikgriffin.com/best-memory-cards-leica-m11/ highlight from this: V90 cards have no speed advantage on M11 vs V60 cards, but might cause problems due to legacy hardware used in M11 Was under an old firmware apparently (Jan. 2023). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted February 10, 2024 Share #79 Posted February 10, 2024 I do not really believe in this as since the beginning there were recommendations on which card to use. And we still talk about problems. Its most probably a very tricky combination of different settings. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted February 10, 2024 Share #80 Posted February 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, lct said: Was under an old firmware apparently (Jan. 2023). If there really is legacy hardware onboard the M11, firmware will not change that... 🙃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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