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On 1/5/2024 at 9:29 AM, newtoleica said:

Nothing to see really. They will look just like a 50mm f3 lens. Won't have quite the pop of a 50 1.4, so depends what you need.

For me, they look nothing like 50mm. Far away, no mater f3 or whatever 

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On 1/5/2024 at 11:06 AM, Miltz said:

If you plan to take environmental portraits it’s amazing. If you want a 50mm 1.4/1.8 look you’ll be disappointed. Especially when you factor in the terrible frame lines crop mode in camera. It really makes composition harder. If you have another camera and a 50mm lens bring that. Now if you have the luxury of being about to carefully compose people like in a studio I can see that working to an extent. 

The perspective between a crop and the original 50 mm shot are identical except for the DOF unless you change position. A common misconception; the perspective ( or “look” as you call it) is not defined by focal length. It is determined by the position of the camera  and objects in the scene. How many portraits are taken at 1.4?  Fuzzy ears and noses do not appeal to many. 

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vor 16 Minuten schrieb jaapv:

Fuzzy ears and noses do not appeal to many. 

That is so right. Were we not instructed in old courses to choose a smaller aperture for portraits exactly because of this effect. Then when using Q we could test with 1.7 portraits with 28mm in order to get a DOF of the croped image that is comparable to 50mm DOF.

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I could check the exact crop, but this is taken with the Q3...

 

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17 hours ago, Patrick NL said:

I could check the exact crop, but this is taken with the Q3...

 

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Checked it. It was a landscape image. I cropped out a 4x5 and straightened it a bit. I'm not sure what the crop would be, but the result is 4880x6100. That is almost 30 Mpix left from the 60.3 Mpix.

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Hope this helps- one shot was the Q3 at 50 crop and the other was ‘lux 50 on an M10r same distance and was not meant to be scientific at all. I was bored as the weather has been trash. You can tell which is which cuz the Q3 image has the lux to the left. Both lens wide open

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I did my own rough test after seeing this but kept my 50 lux at f3.4 for an equivalent DOF:

 also found the 50 lux has a narrower field of view.

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Of course it has a more narrow field of view.  You are not at infinity. Natively the lens is about 52 mm -variable per example- at this distance about 55 or 56 mm ( estimate). The Germans have a nice word for this effect: Bildfeldschwund. 

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