hdmesa Posted February 1 Share #1021 Posted February 1 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, Ray Harrison said: Not sure what AWB favors since I never use it. Maybe I’ll see what it does here in the Denver area’s midday light, for grins. Daylight WB does it, too. Only combo I found that works with Daylight without magenta tint is actually LRC using Abobe Standard profile. Daylight in C1 using the default profile will have magenta tint, just not as much as LRC with its default profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hdmesa Posted February 1 Share #1022 Posted February 1 (edited) Going to be passing over this thread moving forward. Time to get on with life. All you M11 purple people eaters have fun out there 🫡 See you in the M12 purple tint thread. Edited February 1 by hdmesa Can’t type 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Harrison Posted February 1 Share #1023 Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, hdmesa said: Daylight WB does it, too. Only combo I found that works with Daylight without magenta tint is actually LRC using Abobe Standard profile. Daylight in C1 using the default profile will have magenta tint, just not as much as LRC with its default profile. Very strange! Completely the opposite for me. Daylight doesn’t typically have magenta tint bias as measured or viewed in C1 prostandard. It does have a smidge in LrC. As you say, maybe it’s related to subject, time-of-day, latitude, etc. It’s a fairly flat weather day here in Denver today, grey skies and so forth. I’ll see if I can coax some magenta as I’m out and about. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted February 2 Share #1024 Posted February 2 8 hours ago, _tc said: I recommend if you want to test, use a grey card and compare to AWB. TBH I don't think it matters that much, and it's not worth getting that heated about. You learn your tool and how to work with it. If color accuracy matters that much for a certain situation, don't rely on AWB on any camera. Again except maybe an X2D. It's really that simple. I still wish Leica would improve it though. I don't mind it leaning magenta but does it have to be so much? 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted February 2 Share #1025 Posted February 2 seriously you are taking this too seriously. it is a quick fix BTW that table looks magenta on the X2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted February 2 Share #1026 Posted February 2 16 hours ago, Photoworks said: 🤣 I watched this video too. Interesting that he presented a consistent magenta cast on the Hasselblad images he created compared to Leica Q3 and Sony images. Wonder how the Hasselblad magenta would have compared to the M11 magenta. Regardless, super easy fix at least for the M11 files as you and so many us have posted repeatedly, but yet this magenta thread keeps on going and going and going... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted February 2 Share #1027 Posted February 2 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/1/2025 at 10:39 AM, hdmesa said: Going to be passing over this thread moving forward. Time to get on with life. All you M11 purple people eaters have fun out there 🫡 See you in the M12 purple tint thread. What is Life without a bit of magenta to keep us motivated! 🤪 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted February 2 Share #1028 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, LBJ2 said: What is Life without a bit of magenta to keep us motivated! 🤪 Magenta is so 2023! Pantone's color of the year 2025 is Mocha Mousse. In 2023, it was Viva Magenta. I hope Leica has a firmware update to force a Mocha Mouse tint on images. 🤪 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 3 Share #1029 Posted February 3 On 1/30/2025 at 10:11 PM, hdmesa said: You either haven't trained yourself to see it, or you live at a latitude and altitude and shoot environments where it's not provoked. The M11 Auto WB isn't "lousy". Lousy is all over the map. The M11 Auto WB in daylight is quite consistent. Where I live, it quite consistently favors a magenta tint bias during bright daylight hours. At sunrise/sunset, I don't see a magenta tint bias as often – either the magenta is complimentary in that lighting and blends in and/or the Auto WB has an easier time with sunrise/sunset lighting. Nope: I'm *measuring* it--and what I'm measuring is neutral gray, no magenta. It doesn't seem to matter *where* I take pictures (from NA to Europe, Hong Kong and India). When used as I describe, and through C1, there is no magenta bias. That may not be how most people are using the camera, as Charles says. It seems to me that's on Adobe (and Leica) to fix between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 3 Share #1030 Posted February 3 On 1/31/2025 at 10:52 AM, Smogg said: When you walk down the street and take pictures, you usually don't run up to strangers and ask them to hold a gray card. As a result, after the walk you get 300 frames with completely random values and white balance shifts, since the lighting was uneven. During post-processing, after correcting 5-6 frames by eye, your internal balance gets lost and your brain perceives the normal balance incorrectly. Personally, for this I was forced to install a big gray reflector near the computer to "zero" the white balance in my head. To do this, I look at it for 20 seconds between pictures. I had dozens of cameras, but I only have this with the M11. Is this normal? How long can you defend Leica, given that it has not corrected its mistake for 3 years, deliberately pretending that nothing is happening and ignoring the fair complaints of its customers? This is some kind of sectarianism, when even objective criticism is unacceptable. You don't need a gray card. You probably need a better raw converter and work flow if you're serious about color. (Talk about sectarianism ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted February 4 Share #1031 Posted February 4 I think I found a clue as to the tint of the M11 as many experience it: it is modern; in Foto’s app it says - Quote Leica Eternal produces images with striking contrast and bold saturation. The magenta tint adds a distinctly modern look with a captivating visual appeal. So it is a new Leica style maybe ☺️ Well that would give hope of in the future being able to choose. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted February 4 Share #1032 Posted February 4 (edited) On 2/2/2025 at 3:13 AM, _tc said: use your words, what is the point you're trying to make here? My take away, is that the (used on. . .) Sony lens is more prone to flare/haze! And that shadow greens are bluer (but hey I knew that; C1 allows me to edit the colour temp of the shadows separately, those smartasses. Edited February 4 by Alberti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix.View Posted February 24 Share #1033 Posted February 24 https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419164-how-to-un-see-magenta-cast/?do=findComment&comment=5762223 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don daniel Posted February 24 Share #1034 Posted February 24 What do you want to prove with your posting? That indeed you CAN unsee the magenta cast in your picture? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 24 Share #1035 Posted February 24 I don’t own an M11 but it is definitely there on a lot of pics I’ve seen. I don’t think it would bother me too much though. Even though I’m a heavy user, I get a handful of keeper shots a week if I’m lucky, the post processing on these I actually enjoy and is not too arduous. I tend to shoot in AWB as LR then allows me to choose daylight but retain the as shot by camera setting which is often better in my experience. If I chose daylight in camera, I would lose that option. Again, for a handful of shots a week, it’s all relatively minor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted February 24 Share #1036 Posted February 24 Did you try the new "adaptive color" profile in LrC? An imported image shows the "M11" profile. I like that new adaptive profile very much. It has some influence on magenta as well as I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgeenen Posted February 24 Share #1037 Posted February 24 vor 10 Minuten schrieb M11 for me: Did you try the new "adaptive color" profile in LrC? I tried the Adaptive Color profile on some pictures. Sometimes, it does a lot of changes to the original image which makes it difficult to compare the effect on magenta tint. I have found a couple of samples where the original magenta tint had been preserved and my magenta tweak helped to improve especially muted colors. So my (preliminary) judgement - the adaptive color profile is not touching the color balance of an image. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don daniel Posted February 24 Share #1038 Posted February 24 I had similar initial experiences. In my opinion, the adaptive color profile primarily adjusts the contrasts, brightens the shadows, and increases color saturation, which can be very effective depending on the subject and lighting conditions. However, it does not seem to have any impact on the magenta cast or the white balance. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted February 24 Share #1039 Posted February 24 vor 7 Stunden schrieb M11 for me: as I imagine Lucky me that I wrote "I imagine" 🤣🤗 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix.View Posted February 25 Share #1040 Posted February 25 On 24/02/2025 at 09:07, don daniel said: Que voulez-vous prouver avec votre message ? Que vous POUVEZ effectivement ne pas voir la dominante magenta sur votre photo ? Oui Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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