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Obligatory cat photo with my new M11P .

 

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One more for fun.

Really love the camera.

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My last one for now.

Can confirm the Content authentication doesn't seem to work as yet for me.

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On 10/29/2023 at 9:05 AM, elmars said:

But of course that is no guarantee.

Isn’t there a trackrecord of xxM-P’s which sort of telts us that these versions are made with more rigour, also in endcrontrol?

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8 hours ago, MattMaber said:

Should be embeded in away that it doesn't matter of the editing app is compliant or not. 

How?  An editing app reads metadata and raw data from an image file.  It de-mosaics the image to some internal representation, applies users edits, and then creates a new file.  The file may or may not contains original metadata.  The file may or may not include a representation of the edits made.  That's what photo editor do.

How do you force an editing app to include data in a file it writes?  Especially, how do you force an editing app that hasn't been updated in years (there are still lots of Lighroom 6 users) to do this.

I think you are asking for the impossible.

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I understood that the current version of Lightroom Classic worked with Content Authentication, but there is a preference that needs to be turned on and is off by default.

@elmars, check for the preference and re-export to test.  Nice images of the meeting btw!

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So far Leica and Adobe seemed to have worked together on this, with Adobe taking the initiative and lead.  For this structure to be used, it needs a broader set of editing tools supporting it.  Invisible factors of how the various companies get along will play a role.  I would guess that Leica and Adobe would have to get some body that speaks for the customers further downstream, like magazines, newspapers and broadcasters, to ask for this.  Then I might see it supported by Capture One, and others.

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14 hours ago, marchyman said:

How?  An editing app reads metadata and raw data from an image file.  It de-mosaics the image to some internal representation, applies users edits, and then creates a new file.  The file may or may not contains original metadata.  The file may or may not include a representation of the edits made.  That's what photo editor do.

How do you force an editing app to include data in a file it writes?  Especially, how do you force an editing app that hasn't been updated in years (there are still lots of Lighroom 6 users) to do this.

I think you are asking for the impossible.

im sure youre right, but it makes it all a bit pointless otherwise 

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48 minutes ago, MattMaber said:

im sure youre right, but it makes it all a bit pointless otherwise 

I agree in a way, but fact is it has the potential to be useful for people who might work in industries where this kind of information will become more important when selling to a client, contests, news, probably plenty of other industries. That doesn't mean the information has to be available for the eventual viewers/consumers of the photographs though. 

For now it is too early to say if this is a useful addition, there is not enough support yet for it to make sense right now. But you have to start somewhere with new technology and standards. I am part of the skeptics myself, but willing to keep an open mind that it could potentially become important for some photographers. Time will tell, worst case you just have a useless chip in your M11-P that you can easily disable via firmware. 

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Can now verify that CC works in Lightroom Classic / PhotoShop chain:

Load M11-P .dng in Lightroom Classic, make changes etc.

From context menu, choose "edit in PhotoShop"

Enable content credentials in PhotoShop (windows menu)

Export .jpg from PhotoShop, with content credentials enabled

 

The resulting .jpg file will now show credentials, both Leica and Adobe,  on the CC verify website.

 

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29 minutes ago, elmars said:

What software did You use to export the photo and did You enable to export the content credentials?

Uh Lightroom -> Photoshop -> export with credentials. The original exported photo as such shows all the credentials on the https://contentcredentials.org/verify website. Once uploaded and downloaded again from this forum, these credentials are lost and nothing fun left to see.

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Fake or not??

Download the original as uploaded to this forum by clicking the link https://i.postimg.cc/QtKzCt94/Fake-or-not.jpg , and then choose "download original image". Open website https://contentcredentials.org/verify and drop the downloaded image on it to see the (in this case 3-stage) credentials and proof if it is fake or not.

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57 minutes ago, Edax said:

Fake or not??

Download the original as uploaded to this forum by clicking the link https://i.postimg.cc/QtKzCt94/Fake-or-not.jpg , and then choose "download original image". Open website https://contentcredentials.org/verify and drop the downloaded image on it to see the (in this case 3-stage) credentials and proof if it is fake or not.

Shows the edits of the and says this one is a combination of combination of multiple content. Interesting.

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