M11 for me Posted October 27, 2023 Share #21 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 10 Stunden schrieb mosh1: almost certainly heavier than the existing 28mm see 2 posts above yours: It is lighter Edited October 27, 2023 by M11 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mosh1 Posted October 27, 2023 Share #22 Posted October 27, 2023 9 hours ago, M11 for me said: see 2 posts above yours: It is lighter You might not have fully read my post. According to the spec sheet it's lighter but Leica's specs can be wildly off, or they measure the weight differently from the older lens. I can bet it will be heavier. The new close focus 50mm 'Lux weight is actually 45g heavier than the old but by the spec sheet it said it was 2g heavier. See: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junix Posted October 28, 2023 Share #23 Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 1:45 AM, Al Brown said: They did. Silver 28 /1.4, silver 28/2 and silver 28/2.8. And Silver 28/5.6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junix Posted October 29, 2023 Share #24 Posted October 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Al Brown said: True. But this lens is not of the new variety, it is a re-edition, hence me not including it. Point taken, also this lens is now in the standard portfolio and not a unicorn (..) like the Silver 28/1.4. Back on topic, a Silver version of the new 2.0 would definitely pique my interest as I’ve decided last year I will only buy silver Leica lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted October 31, 2023 Share #25 Posted October 31, 2023 I will stick to my Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewl Posted November 2, 2023 Share #26 Posted November 2, 2023 Generally, I am very interested in the 28mm cron also due to the 40mm close focus feature (all other lenses are exceeding my budget and I have a 35mm Lux FLE already). But, I am trying to understand how the framelines look on the M11. If I use the lever to simulate the different framelines, I do believe the 35mm are the widest. If you mount the 28 will there be framelines you cannot see without the 28mm mounted? Or is it basically then the whole viewfinder that frames a 28mm picture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted November 2, 2023 Share #27 Posted November 2, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, Jewl said: Generally, I am very interested in the 28mm cron also due to the 40mm close focus feature (all other lenses are exceeding my budget and I have a 35mm Lux FLE already). But, I am trying to understand how the framelines look on the M11. If I use the lever to simulate the different framelines, I do believe the 35mm are the widest. If you mount the 28 will there be framelines you cannot see without the 28mm mounted? Or is it basically then the whole viewfinder that frames a 28mm picture? The M11 has 28mm framelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 2, 2023 Share #28 Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Am 29.10.2023 um 11:09 schrieb Al Brown: The 30 or so years no wide angle M lenses in silver were produced was just devastatingly long To the best of my knowledge, Leica DID make silver chrome wide angle lenses until not that long ago. For example, the Elmarit-M 2.8/21 and 2.8/24mm as well as the Summicron-M 2/35asph were available in silver chrome on brass for a long time, and the Summilux-M 1.4/35asph, too.. I am not sure about the 28mm Summicron though (I think there was a limited edition at some point). Edited November 2, 2023 by wizard addition of text Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewl Posted November 2, 2023 Share #29 Posted November 2, 2023 vor 53 Minuten schrieb hmzimelka: The M11 has 28mm framelines. Ok, then these seem not to be simulated via the lever, correct? Because when I use it, it only goes down to the 35mm framelines pair... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW0 Posted November 2, 2023 Share #30 Posted November 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, Jewl said: Ok, then these seem not to be simulated via the lever, correct? Because when I use it, it only goes down to the 35mm framelines pair... If you push the lever all the way to the lens the 28mm framelines will be displayed. If you wear glasses you might have a hard time seeing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted November 2, 2023 Share #31 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jewl said: Ok, then these seem not to be simulated via the lever, correct? Because when I use it, it only goes down to the 35mm framelines pair... They certainly do show on my M11 when pushing the lever all the way towards the lens/mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 2, 2023 Share #32 Posted November 2, 2023 vor 1 Stunde schrieb Jewl: Ok, then these seem not to be simulated via the lever, correct? Does your camera display the 90mm framelines? If so, the 28mm framelines will be displayed at the very same setting. All framelines are displayed in pairs, namely 28/90, 35/135 and 50/75. You should be able to select all frameline pairs with the frameline selector lever. That said, there has been the odd lens around fitted with a wrong lens flange. For example, if a 28mm lens is fitted with a 35mm lens flange, it will bring up the 35/135 frameline pair instead of the correct 28/90 pair. This is very uncommon though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted November 2, 2023 Share #33 Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, wizard said: Does your camera display the 90mm framelines? If so, the 28mm framelines will be displayed at the very same setting. All framelines are displayed in pairs, namely 28/90, 35/135 and 50/75. You should be able to select all frameline pairs with the frameline selector lever. That said, there has been the odd lens around fitted with a wrong lens flange. For example, if a 28mm lens is fitted with a 35mm lens flange, it will bring up the 35/135 frameline pair instead of the correct 28/90 pair. This is very uncommon though. The problem seems to be that his camera's frame selector lever isn't bringing up the 28 frame-lines... no 28mm lens attached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 2, 2023 Share #34 Posted November 2, 2023 vor 4 Minuten schrieb hmzimelka: The problem seems to be that his camera's frame selector lever isn't bringing up the 28 frame-lines... no 28mm lens attached. That's why I had asked about the 90mm framelines. If those show up, the 28mm framelines should show up, too, with or without a 28mm lens attached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmzimelka Posted November 2, 2023 Share #35 Posted November 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, wizard said: That's why I had asked about the 90mm framelines. If those show up, the 28mm framelines should show up, too, with or without a 28mm lens attached. Apologies... I must have read or interpreted something different in your post that I no longer can identify. 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted November 2, 2023 Share #36 Posted November 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Jewl said: ...If you mount the 28 will there be framelines you cannot see without the 28mm mounted? Or is it basically then the whole viewfinder that frames a 28mm picture? There are 28mm frame lines but they are so wide that they may be impossible to see with glasses on. Even without glasses, I have to push my eye very close to the viewfinder and physically look up/down/side-to-side to see the framing at the edges. I don't do this in practice, I just assume the entire view is the 28mm image, which works out well. For exact framing with a 28mm lens, best to reference the LCD. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted November 2, 2023 Share #37 Posted November 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, hdmesa said: best to reference the LCD. ...or electronic or optical finder in the hot-shoe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted November 3, 2023 Share #38 Posted November 3, 2023 7 hours ago, pedaes said: ...or electronic or optical finder in the hot-shoe. Yes for sure – I didn't want to assume they had the EVF but we all have the LCD 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted November 3, 2023 Share #39 Posted November 3, 2023 Jeez, the way Leica keeps making lenses bigger and bigger these days, the M12 body may actually be the size of a "Texas Leica" (Fuji GW690 RF for 6x9 120 film)! https://fstoppers.com/reviews/look-texas-leica-626496 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted November 3, 2023 Share #40 Posted November 3, 2023 did anybody get the lens yet? any samples available anywhere? RAW preferred for pixel peeping😁 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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