cj3209 Posted March 11, 2024 Share #161 Posted March 11, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/7/2024 at 7:36 AM, Sohail said: It's a great lens but just judging by the pictures here and elsewhere (especially the first picture), it distorts (i.e. stretches the frame noticeably) about a third of the way in on either side. I think the 28 works better for these kinds of shots. It begs the question of what sort of shots the 21 excel at. Architecture, interiors, and landscape for sure. I don't see that much distortion on the edges but then I only care about faces. For architectural pics, I probably wouldn't use a 21mm wide lens or I would have to adjust in PS or LR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterBoyadjian Posted March 12, 2024 Share #162 Posted March 12, 2024 7 hours ago, cj3209 said: Wow. Faces don't look distorted - most wide angles I've used distort faces. I do expect distortion on the edges - you have to expect that. Nice shots! It is better than the 28 on the Q's and 24 on the 24-90 in terms if distorting people. I've been shooting in APSC mode on my SL3 for a 31mm crop. Works really well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted March 12, 2024 Share #163 Posted March 12, 2024 35 minutes ago, PeterBoyadjian said: It is better than the 28 on the Q's and 24 on the 24-90 in terms if distorting people. I've been shooting in APSC mode on my SL3 for a 31mm crop. Works really well. You’re going to spend my money. I’m so torn between the 21 APO or the 28 to use with my 50 and 75 APO SLs. Would love to see some images taken in APS-C mode on the SL3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted March 12, 2024 Share #164 Posted March 12, 2024 I have the 28mm APO. It's my go-to lens. I'm tempted to get the 21mm but in practical terms I can't justify it. I can't imagine it would get much. If I could choose again, it would make more sense to go for 21 and 35. Instead, I'm fine with 28/50/90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb Posted March 12, 2024 Share #165 Posted March 12, 2024 28/50/90 apo are an amazing combo. 21/35/75 apo are my amazing alternates. Robb 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted March 12, 2024 Share #166 Posted March 12, 2024 vor 6 Minuten schrieb robb: 28/50/90 apo are an amazing combo. 21/35/75 apo are my amazing alternates. Robb my choice is 21/35/90 - or wait, better take them all… 😉 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted March 12, 2024 Share #167 Posted March 12, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 18 minutes ago, MediaFotografie said: my choice is 21/35/90 +1. Plus SL50Lux. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj3209 Posted March 18, 2024 Share #168 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 11:28 PM, helged said: +1. Plus SL50Lux. I just wish the 50lux SL was a bit smaller; it's a huge lens and makes me think twice to put it in my bag, unfortunately... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted March 19, 2024 Share #169 Posted March 19, 2024 (edited) I had the chance to twist the 21 Apo on my SL2S yesterday. No editing has been done for this image apart from the white border and colour space to srgb. 1/50 sec, f 7.1 800 iso. I basically pointed and shot this frame at my favourite camera retail outlet. The extensive Leica cabinet was behind me. I was told to "leave it on" (the lens) however we all know where that experience leads us. The 21 SEM is still working well for me however no where near the excellent ability for perspective and distortion control. If I was a working photographer this lens would be a real workhorse and worth every penny. Thanks to Camera Electronics in Stirling Street. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 19, 2024 by Ken Abrahams 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5113569'>More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted March 19, 2024 Share #170 Posted March 19, 2024 On 2/6/2024 at 11:24 PM, PeterBoyadjian said: I shot a birthday on Saturday with the 21 APO in rotation. What a nightmare, the room was blood red - red draped walls to the ceiling. I still bounce flashed and corrected skin tones in Lightroom. The step and shoot was small, I was like four or five feet away, so any 4 person lineups I had to use the 21. APO SL performance in a 21mm, how they did it not sure, but it's a keeper. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thank you for these samples! Great shots and show what I was looking for, how it renders people in an event environment. It looks fantastic ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted March 19, 2024 Share #171 Posted March 19, 2024 12 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: I had the chance to twist the 21 Apo on my SL2S yesterday. No editing has been done for this image apart from the white border and colour space to srgb. 1/50 sec, f 7.1 800 iso. I basically pointed and shot this frame at my favourite camera retail outlet. The extensive Leica cabinet was behind me. I was told to "leave it on" (the lens) however we all know where that experience leads us. The 21 SEM is still working well for me however no where near the excellent ability for perspective and distortion control. If I was a working photographer this lens would be a real workhorse and worth every penny. Thanks to Camera Electronics in Stirling Street. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thank you for this. There is very little stretching at the right and left edges of the frame. It basically looks like a wider normal lens rather than a super wide angle. Right now I'm carrying the 35 APO SL, 75 APO SL and 50 Lux-SL in my bag. I have the Laowa 10mm 2.8 rectilinear on order, but that's very much a special purpose lens. The 21 APO may be the exact thing I need for my wider option for general use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted March 19, 2024 Share #172 Posted March 19, 2024 After looking at that image again I'm wondering how Leica has managed to pretty much eliminate volumetric distortion from the lens. Do you think this is done optically, or could it be that the lens is actually wider than 21 and there is some correction being done in camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virob Posted March 19, 2024 Share #173 Posted March 19, 2024 (edited) Yes, Leica does use software correction in the 21. Without it, the view is noticeably wider. This Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Vs Edited March 19, 2024 by Virob 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Vs ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5114987'>More sharing options...
Virob Posted March 19, 2024 Share #174 Posted March 19, 2024 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/383287-where-are-all-the-reviews-of-the-21-apo/?do=findComment&comment=5114996'>More sharing options...
Miltz Posted March 19, 2024 Share #175 Posted March 19, 2024 35 minutes ago, Virob said: Yes, Leica does use software correction in the 21. Without it, the view is noticeably wider. This Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Vs Great to know. This is done in camera correct? Like the Q3 lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted March 19, 2024 Share #176 Posted March 19, 2024 I kind of like the wide unadulterated 21 mm view as it adds character to certain images but equally like the very perfect Apo SL 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 19, 2024 Share #177 Posted March 19, 2024 I'm going to stop reading this thread before it costs me money. I have the APO 28 and love it more than I imagined when ordering it. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virob Posted March 20, 2024 Share #178 Posted March 20, 2024 9 hours ago, Miltz said: Great to know. This is done in camera correct? Like the Q3 lens? Yes, the corrected image shows in the viewfinder and jpegs. The correction instructions are also in the dng file for those programs that can read it. I’m my case Nitro Photos can and Affinity Photos can not. 3 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: I kind of like the wide unadulterated 21 mm view as it adds character to certain images but equally like the very perfect Apo SL 21. There is some noticeable barrel distortion in there for sure. For some images it totally fine, and that bit extra wide angle could come in handy at times. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted March 20, 2024 Share #179 Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Virob said: Yes, the corrected image shows in the viewfinder and jpegs. The correction instructions are also in the dng file for those programs that can read it. I’m my case Nitro Photos can and Affinity Photos can not. There is some noticeable barrel distortion in there for sure. For some images it totally fine, and that bit extra wide angle could come in handy at times. The distortion I was referring to is volume/volumetric distortion: https://www.lifeafterphotoshop.com/its-the-distortion-youve-never-heard-of-and-the-only-tool-ive-found-to-fix-it/ Even the uncorrected image above doesn't seem to show a lot of this. it's one of the main reasons I'm considering the 21 APO over some other choices in the same focal length range. Edited March 20, 2024 by Dr. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted March 20, 2024 Share #180 Posted March 20, 2024 Would somebody be so kind as to post a street shot taken at 14mm focal length and one at 21mm? I'm tempted to get the 21. Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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