Leica M11 Firmware 1.6.2 on the way

[jakontil]

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The maestro IV will only draw more power compared to III i believe.. so without video 8k wont have advntage over having it

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[Kwesi]

10 hours ago, Photoworks said:

the Maestro III is in the SL2 and it is very good. a faster processor often means more power requirement.

If you want metering to improve, is best to ask for improvements in the firmware.

I never used the dust detection option in my other camera, maybe that is why most people don't miss it, but you can ask for it to be added. in the meantime, C1P has this option in the new version.

 I think there’s something quite nice about knowing where your dust is before you even take the lens off the camera. Not sure why it got removed when we went from 24 to 40mp. I just assumed it was lack of processing power. 

[Photoworks]

39 minutes ago, Kwesi said:

 I think there’s something quite nice about knowing where your dust is before you even take the lens off the camera. Not sure why it got removed when we went from 24 to 40mp. I just assumed it was lack of processing power. 

Leica is learning and implementing new sensor layering technologies. By moving the microlenses away from the sensor, Like M11, the dust is much less visible. Little changes make a big difference.

I keep my sensors clean, and I do turn off the camera if I am changing the lens. A real sensor cleaning was only necessary two times a year.

[hdmesa]

On 7/2/2023 at 3:13 PM, Photoworks said:

I don't see any benefit in that!

the M11 does not do 8K video

On 7/2/2023 at 5:23 PM, Photoworks said:

the Maestro III is in the SL2 and it is very good. a faster processor often means more power requirement.

If you want metering to improve, is best to ask for improvements in the firmware.

I never used the dust detection option in my other camera, maybe that is why most people don't miss it, but you can ask for it to be added. in the meantime, C1P has this option in the new version.

On 7/2/2023 at 11:00 PM, jakontil said:

The maestro IV will only draw more power compared to III i believe.. so without video 8k wont have advntage over having it

Today's processors are usually more efficient as well as more powerful with each new version. It's possible that the IV if used in the M11-P would run cooler and draw less power to perform the same tasks as the III does in the M11. Or is it only Apple that can work this kind of magic these days?

[jakontil]

1 hour ago, hdmesa said:

Today's processors are usually more efficient as well as more powerful with each new version. It's possible that the IV if used in the M11-P would run cooler and draw less power to perform the same tasks as the III does in the M11. Or is it only Apple that can work this kind of magic these days?

Im comparing with Leica Q2 and Q3, with the latter having higher capacity battery out of the box and newer version of Maestro IV, they have the same shots capacity? I might be wrong though and apple wins with its efficiency core, the more e-core the merrier, for simple task, probably the same applied to M11 which mainly focused on shooting only without video recording, especially 8k 😂😂😂

[hdmesa]

6 hours ago, jakontil said:

Im comparing with Leica Q2 and Q3, with the latter having higher capacity battery out of the box and newer version of Maestro IV, they have the same shots capacity? I might be wrong though and apple wins with its efficiency core, the more e-core the merrier, for simple task, probably the same applied to M11 which mainly focused on shooting only without video recording, especially 8k 😂😂😂

Yeah, the Q3 has the higher capacity battery and uses the full power of the new chip to record 8K. I don’t see them changing processors until the M12 anyway.

[Kwesi]

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6 hours ago, hdmesa said:

I don’t see them changing processors until the M12 anyway.

I agree and yet the M10R had no precedent. 

I think the best clue we have now regarding M11-P features comes from the M11 Monochrom and that aint much

[scott kirkpatrick]

Right now perspective correction and the histogram can't be working at the same time because the M11's processor runs out of cycles.  And the overflow internal storage is only 64 GB, while the Q3 has 256 GB.  The later chip set might make both of those limitations vanish in an M11-P.  And make the VF2 work a little faster.  Now if they can do all of that while keeping the impressive battery life, that would be nice.

[Photoworks]

55 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

Q3 has 256 GB

if you put in a 256GB card?

[jakontil]

1 hour ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

Right now perspective correction and the histogram can't be working at the same time because the M11's processor runs out of cycles.  And the overflow internal storage is only 64 GB, while the Q3 has 256 GB.  The later chip set might make both of those limitations vanish in an M11-P.  And make the VF2 work a little faster.  Now if they can do all of that while keeping the impressive battery life, that would be nice.

You mean the memory buffer for continuous shooting? AFAIK the Q3 doesnt have internal storage like either the M11 64Gb and M11 monochrome of 256Gb 

leica never been so lenient giving out power unnecessarily 

[scott kirkpatrick]

20 hours ago, jakontil said:

You mean the memory buffer for continuous shooting? AFAIK the Q3 doesnt have internal storage like either the M11 64Gb and M11 monochrome of 256Gb 

Leica never been so lenient giving out power unnecessarily 

My mistake.  It's the M11M with the larger "virtual second card" inside.  I really like that because I always fill up my cards and run over.  However, the M11 doesn't treat the internal second card like a truly removable card.  Extracting files from it is restricted to taking all of them or just a marked set of selects.  I haven't tried reading from both over the USB port, but I expect it is complex as well. The internal memory buffer is connected more tightly to the ARM processor and much smaller (the online technical spec says 3 GB).  It is the size of that buffer that causes slowdowns in continuous shooting to occur after the first dozen or so shots.

[jakontil]

2 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

My mistake.  It's the M11M with the larger "virtual second card" inside.  I really like that because I always fill up my cards and run over.  However, the M11 doesn't treat the internal second card like a truly removable card.  Extracting files from it is restricted to taking all of them or just a marked set of selects.  I haven't tried reading from both over the USB port, but I expect it is complex as well. The internal memory buffer is connected more tightly to the ARM processor and much smaller (the online technical spec says 3 GB).  It is the size of that buffer that causes slowdowns in continuous shooting to occur after the first dozen or so shots.

I agree, despite being a nice addition, or allegedly reliable backup, it’s more convenient to take the card out and use a usb reader, at least that’s what i have been doing

yeah i concur with slowdowns, although i only use single shots mode all the time, subsequent fast shutter release in a long time gave me freezes though quite rarely but it happened

[Guest]

According to an official Information i recieved from Leica, there won't be a firmware 1.6.2 anytime soon. 1.6.2 is the same as 1.6.1 and just used internally at the factory. Just wanted to let you know, sorry for the misinformation when starting this thread. 

[TeleElmar135mm]

In the German forum there is a hint about FW1.6.2. There the member said, that they (Leica) had to change a part in the camera and so they had to change the FW. Here the link:

 

 

[RMF]

Interesting from the latest post in German forum from link above-

Translation:
‘Hello. because of a brand new M11 mono I complained about, I received a new M11 mono through my dealer. this was delivered with the FW 1.6.2. since this version is not documented anywhere, I asked for it during an email contact with leica for another reason.

A few days later I received a call from the leica service. this FW is delivered with brand new M11, because leica had to change a component, which now requires the newer FW. I found it nice from leica. the employee emphasized that it was no different, better, worse, slower or faster. I did not want to overstretch it and did

But does anyone here know more about it? In any case, my new M11 mono behaves as I would like, apart from the fact that I still find a few details unhappy at the FW.’