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1 hour ago, cheekz4dayz said:

That's great to hear and thank you! Man I really didn't want to buy a q3 lol as I still really like my q2 but that lens cap fall off thing is so annoying. Maybe if I buy the new lens shade and q3 lens cap for my q2 I can fix the problem 🤓

Many of the reputable videos on YouTube (eg mathphotographer) show that the lens is identical so you should only need to buy the lens cap. Always worth checking first though given the cost of Leica accessories!

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7 hours ago, cheekz4dayz said:

That's great to hear and thank you! Man I really didn't want to buy a q3 lol as I still really like my q2 but that lens cap fall off thing is so annoying. Maybe if I buy the new lens shade and q3 lens cap for my q2 I can fix the problem 🤓

I bought a Otect Q Cap for my Q2M. No problems with it falling off. Ever.

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On 5/30/2023 at 11:22 AM, Steven said:

I've used the SL2-S extensively. You'll notice it the second you pick up the Q3. It's so much faster and so much more accurate than anything Leica has put out before.

I sold my Q3 already though. I really didn't like the output. But then again, I hated the M11. 

 

Can you walk me through how you went from saying the M11 was reminiscent of the analog look of the M9 to now hating it? I want to understand your thought process to know how to make a decision on buying a Q3. Thanks in advance.

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I still would like a separate 75mm version of a Q (Qt - for telephoto - or different letter) and then there is a proper combo that one can shoot with to get the job done properly. I just can't use digital zoom with losing resolution. Certainly not for a client when working.

A 28mm and a 75mm would be great. A number of pro photographers I have come across using Q or Q2s have agreed with me on this and said they would love one. Then they wouldn't have to lug around a Nikon, Canon etc. with a longer lens. (I use a Nikon with a 85mm f1.4). 

Whilst two cameras is a bit of a hassle, it does mean that there is the consistency of image quality, and size and weight advantages.

Any thoughts, anyone? 

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3 hours ago, Steven said:

About the M11 being reminiscent of the analog look of the M9, if I reminisce correctly, I didn't say it myself. I said it's what I was told the M11 was going to be, long before it came out. Repeating info from a source. 

As for my thought process about hating the M11, it consisted of buying it, trying it for 6 months, deciding that I hated the look of every single photo I took with it, and the noise and feel of it's shutter, selling it, buying it again a few months later to give it another chance, remembering quickly why I hated it in the first place, and selling it again. 

The Q3 gives a similar look, in worst. With the M11, while the image is too digital, it can be used with vintages that I love. The sensor/lens comb of the Q3 is so sharp that sometimes it looks like software sharpened like on the iPhone ! That being said, I'm not easy with digital. There's only one camera I'm willing to use, it's the SL2-S. Love its output. 

As for the Ms, my favourite is the M10P. thought process for that is looking back at several thousand images taken with M cameras. I always prefer the rendering of the M10P. And I've always said it. It was true then. It's true now. 

Thanks, Steven. The only two cameras I have right now are the SL2-S (Reporter) and M6 (new), so I can understand. I wish Leica would make an M camera with the SL2-S sensor.

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A much needed excellent review! I don’t have to go anywhere else for questions.

The Q3 improvements over the Q2 look solid, especially with the sensor and most things electronics. But for me the basics are the same, the body and the lens. I was guessing they would outfit it with a 35mm lens, in which case people like me with the Q2 might be tempted, given the price of a Leica lens alone. Oh well, maybe the Q4 would be given a different lens.

Thank you for posting!

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On 6/1/2023 at 2:56 PM, nick h said:

I still would like a separate 75mm version of a Q (Qt - for telephoto - or different letter) and then there is a proper combo that one can shoot with to get the job done properly. I just can't use digital zoom with losing resolution. Certainly not for a client when working.

A 28mm and a 75mm would be great. A number of pro photographers I have come across using Q or Q2s have agreed with me on this and said they would love one. Then they wouldn't have to lug around a Nikon, Canon etc. with a longer lens. (I use a Nikon with a 85mm f1.4). 

Whilst two cameras is a bit of a hassle, it does mean that there is the consistency of image quality, and size and weight advantages.

Any thoughts, anyone? 

Hi Nick

I think it's an interesting point - I have to say that in those circumstances I'd rather take an M with two lenses (a 28 and a 75). That way you get the best of both worlds. On the other hand I can see the argument for a Q with a longer focal length, but perhaps 50 would be more useful than 75? 

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20 hours ago, Miltz said:

Has anyone actually reviewed the camera who didn’t get a pre-production copy from Leica? Every single review I’ve seen it’s from Leica guys who got an early copy. I wanna see an independent review. 

Hmmm 

My copy is going back in the next few days - but I hope I was independent. If I'd bought a camera then there is a whole other bunch of confirmation psychology involved - in my case they've been sending cameras to test for nearly 20 years . . . and then I send them back. 

How do you define independent?

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49 minutes ago, jonoslack said:

Hmmm 

My copy is going back in the next few days - but I hope I was independent. If I'd bought a camera then there is a whole other bunch of confirmation psychology involved - in my case they've been sending cameras to test for nearly 20 years . . . and then I send them back. 

How do you define independent?

Well someone who bought the camera with their money and doesn’t have a 20 year relationship with Leica. It’s nothing personal, but you get what I’m saying. I guess I’ll conduct my own review when I get it and test it out personally. 

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1 hour ago, Miltz said:

Well someone who bought the camera with their money and doesn’t have a 20 year relationship with Leica. It’s nothing personal, but you get what I’m saying. I guess I’ll conduct my own review when I get it and test it out personally. 

I guess you have enough free cash to buy your own cameras and lenses purely on the basis of their specs and find out their real world problems for yourself. Many of us don’t, and have to find reviewers we can trust. One can only learn who to trust on the basis of experience i.e. if your own experience after buying the camera or lens matches the review then you trust them. You also have to find a reviewer who appears to look for the same things in a camera as you do. I’ve been reading Jono’s reviews for more than 10 years and have learned (from my own experience after buying) that his reviews (and those of some others) are relevant to my wants, and trustworthy.

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1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I guess you have enough free cash to buy your own cameras and lenses purely on the basis of their specs and find out their real world problems for yourself. Many of us don’t, and have to find reviewers we can trust. One can only learn who to trust on the basis of experience i.e. if your own experience after buying the camera or lens matches the review then you trust them. You also have to find a reviewer who appears to look for the same things in a camera as you do. I’ve been reading Jono’s reviews for more than 10 years and have learned (from my own experience after buying) that his reviews (and those of some others) are relevant to my wants, and trustworthy.

Your response sounds like a little kid trying to defend someone else by making ridiculous claims about me, why I do things, how I think, and my financial status all without knowing anything about me at all. There is nothing wrong with someone asking if anyone has seen any reviews by people who Leica didn’t give cameras to for PR. Grow up. 

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2 hours ago, Miltz said:

Your response sounds like a little kid trying to defend someone else by making ridiculous claims about me, why I do things, how I think, and my financial status all without knowing anything about me at all. There is nothing wrong with someone asking if anyone has seen any reviews by people who Leica didn’t give cameras to for PR. Grow up. 

EDIT- your constant negativity on this forum is a drag and I hope the moderators take note.

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21 minutes ago, geddon_jt said:

EDIT- your constant negativity on this forum is a drag and I hope the moderators take note.

I hope the moderators take note that I’m now being bullied and labeled as “negative” by two people because I simply asked a question about camera reviews. That type of behavior shouldn’t be tolerated. My question didn’t warrant that type of response from either of you, period. 

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