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Jono Slack Review: The Leica Q3


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5 hours ago, Steven said:

If I knew, which I may, I'd get banned for telling you. Why don't you ask Jono ! 

Ask me what? 

more pertinently I hope you're flourishing Steven - nice to see you back here again, I've been following your instagram adventures and you seem to be very manoeuvrable!

best wishes

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I see a few references to the start-up time for the Q3 being about 3 seconds.  Also mentioned on Dpreview's site but on no other reviews I have seen.  My Q2 starts up in about a second.  Is this true for the Q3?  3 seconds even with a much faster processor?  I find that hard to believe and am changing my mind about upgrading.  Is this maybe on pre-released models? If it is true, do you think this could be fixed in firmware?

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When I picked up my Q3 yesterday the dealer told me, that he already installed a new firmware which is not yet visible in the download section. My firmware is now 1.1.0

The startup time is now – feeled not measured – the same as with my Q2M.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Aram Langhans:

start-up time for the Q3 being about 3 seconds

This is certainly not the case with the new firmware. I‘d say less than a second from flipping the switch to the lens focusing. 

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vor 28 Minuten schrieb Qwertynm:

This is certainly not the case with the new firmware. I‘d say less than a second from flipping the switch to the lens focusing. 

Strange enough the new firmware – again – is available on the Chinese Leica site and not on the German one.

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23 hours ago, don daniel said:

It seems to me that the exact opposite is true. The white balance of the M11 has a strong magenta cast. I see this in my own M11 and have to correct it in every photo. The picture thread for the M11 is also full of examples with magenta cast. The images Jono shows here in the Q3 review, however, seem to have quite reasonable white balance. 

Glad to see the Q3 not having the magenta cast problem. But at the same time I'm not seeing a huge difference in color signature between Q2 and 3. Hats off to Leica!

One more thing though, I decided to go back to M-P240 for the classical Leica digital color signature, seems like they don't make them like that anymore. The Q3 didn't give me any surprises, and if anything it seems to steer even further from the classical Leica colors. If you start with M10 it won't feel so foreign, but my eyes are used to M240 and M9 rendering so the new sensors felt really foreign to me.

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1 minute ago, microview said:

"I am keeping my Q2. For 6K€ I want a Leica that looks nice in the hand and to the eye. 
That screen ruins both"

Yes rear view was so elegant with Q2 but no longer. And that tilting screen – oh no, not for me either.

Well, I don't like the tilting screen either, but it won't be a factor in whether I buy the Q3 or not!

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1 minute ago, microview said:

"I am keeping my Q2. For 6K€ I want a Leica that looks nice in the hand and to the eye. 
That screen ruins both"

Yes rear view was so elegant with Q2 but no longer. And that tilting screen – oh no, not for me either.

I have not seen it in person so I am wondering is it really that degrading of a look?  Or is it just the principle of this change bothering past Leica camera owners.  I am hoping for more reviews to get a sense of this change.  

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The pics of the camera make the screen very clunky looking to my eye.  I can't think that it somehow looks better in real life.  Because the flip screen is something I don't want/need it's a major negative point for the camera even though it has nothing to do with image quality.

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2 hours ago, microview said:

"I am keeping my Q2. For 6K€ I want a Leica that looks nice in the hand and to the eye. 
That screen ruins both"

Yes rear view was so elegant with Q2 but no longer. And that tilting screen – oh no, not for me either.

Exactly and by the way the rear view is the most important for the photographer. Because it is the only side you see constantly when using it. 

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The flip screen, while very well built/executed, does make the camera feel much bigger and less well designed in real life. 
I think the only two valid reasons for going from q2 to q3 are better low light, and better AF. 
As far as rendering, I preferred the q2. The q3, like the M11, is too digital/Sony, in my opinion. Still selling mine. 

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Mikep996:

The pics of the camera make the screen very clunky looking to my eye.  I can't think that it somehow looks better in real life.  Because the flip screen is something I don't want/need it's a major negative point for the camera even though it has nothing to do with image quality.

It looks better than in the photos.

 

 

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vor 13 Stunden schrieb indie:

I have not seen it in person so I am wondering is it really that degrading of a look?

I don't think so. I would describe myself as a camera aesthete. When I unpacked the camera, I didn't notice the new design in a negative way (but not in a positive way either). Of course, this is all a matter of taste.

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Nice review, thanks Jono.

I dropped into the Leica Store Lille yesterday to have a look at their display Q3 and I've got to agree it does look and feel much more bulky than the previous generation, especially with the hand grip attached which adds a lot of weight.

I'm sure the images are exceptional though.

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Jono, such  a great review covering all of the latest and greatest features and benefits. 
We all have our peculiar needs ie. We want  a flip screen or do not need one, etc.

Personally I liked the fact my Q2 does not have a flip screen but that is just me. I don’t want my Q2 to work like a Fuji, Nikon , Sony etc  

I am  very interested in the new long exposure capabilities, does this mean there is a bulb mode where you can take 4-5 minute  long exposures perhaps not with a separate remote trigger but at least setting up the internal timer within the menus? 
Whatever we’re all looking for to post rationalize pulling the trigger for an upgrade, there is an aspect within  human behavior called “ loss aversion “ theory  and FOMO- “fear of missing out .”

Leica and every camera OEM relies on it.
We don’t want to be left behind, soon this forum will be ‘chock a block ‘ full of Q3  antidotes and experiences and if you only have a Q2 or god forbid a Q1 you are on the outside looking in. 

I just spent 3 weeks wandering small towns and villages  in south of France with my Q2 and really bonded with it; it was a dream to use and have it with me constantly. Day  or night, rain or shine it was amazing. 

To upgrade now seems disrespectful for all of the love it showed me  🙂


Enjoy what you have, and if you will enjoy  having newer  even more by all means step up to the Leica counter.  
 

Congratulations to Leica for continuing to support and improve this great line. 

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