wlaidlaw Posted March 17, 2023 Share #1  Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I am looking to build a stop motion film camera. My original thought was to use the available R8/9 14202 Remote/intervalometer with either my R8 or R9 but the two intervalometers I have tried from eBay sellers were both dead (elderly electronics) and had to be returned. Some of the others for sale use the "not tested, sold as is" eBay scam with returns not accepted, which having been caught with this in the past, I am not now willing to risk. I am now thinking of getting an MD-2 and using a third party intervalometer with mechanical release but for this to work, I would need to use either my Motor-M or my Motor M4-2. Does anyone know if either of the motor drives work on either the MD or MD-2 bodies? I could also use my Leicina Special which has a built-in intervalometer with my 100mm APO Elmarit Macro lens on an R to M adapter but the quality of the Super 8mm images is about the same as an early mobile phone i.e. dire. Wilson Edited March 17, 2023 by wlaidlaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pgk Posted March 17, 2023 Share #2 Â Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) I'm pretty sure that the MD-2 can use the motor. If you google 'Leica MD-2 & motor' images do come up and one shows the drive connections inside the MD-2, even on eBay. Hhowever I think that you would need to check any specific camera before buying just in case not all were fitted for motor drove. You can never quite tell with Leica sometimes. Having owned an M4-2 motor I would not recommend them - vicious little brutes. That said it would be much, much easier and probably much cheaper to but a digital camera (like a Sony A7 series), and intervalometer (very cheap from Sony and cothers) plus Leica lens adapter if you want to use a specific lens ..... this is the route I would take personally. Edited March 17, 2023 by pgk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfaspen Posted March 17, 2023 Share #3  Posted March 17, 2023 MD2 should accept either motor. I'm not sure about the MDa, and the older MD will not accept either motor. Bon chance with your project. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 17, 2023 Share #4 Â Posted March 17, 2023 Leica MD is based on M2. Leica MDa is based on M4. Leica MD-2 is based on M4-2. So the MD-2 can be used with any Leica Winder or Leica Motor that fits the M4-2. MD and MDa cannot be motorized. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share #5  Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Thanks guys for the information. I know it would be far easier with a digital camera. It is more of a project to keep me amused and distracted over the next 4 months of medical treatment than making a serious photographic tool. I suspect in the end I am going to get the 14227 intervalometer for my R4, which seem quite freely available on Fleabay. As they are simpler than the later R8/9 model, hopefully they will have stayed working. In both cases it was the LCD screen which had failed on the later 14202 R8/9 intervalometer. Wilson Edited March 17, 2023 by wlaidlaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted March 18, 2023 Share #6  Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Hello Everybody, In his book, "Leica M The Advanced School Of Photography" Gunter Osterloh writes that a Leica MOTOR only works with the M2-Mot & the M4-Mot. He also writes that an MD-2 works with a WINDER M, a WINDER M4-P, & a WINDER M4-2. According to Jim Lager in "Leica Illustrated Guide II": MDa's that are designed to take MOTORS are designated MDA MOT. The Capital "A" in MDA MOT is engraved at 1/2 of the size of the other letters. Jim Lager also writes that some MD's were specially modified by Leitz to accept some MOTORS. Best Regards, Michael  Edited March 18, 2023 by Michael Geschlecht 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share #7  Posted March 18, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have decided to go with my R4-MOT, R4 Winder and ordered an RC 14227 intervalometer. I just hope that this works with the R4 winder and does not require the huge R4 motor drive, which I don't have. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted March 18, 2023 Share #8 Â Posted March 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Michael Geschlecht said: Jim Lager also writes that some MD's were specially modified by Leitz to accept some MOTORS. To be complete, M2 cameras, not just MD cameras, that were not produced as M2-Mot cameras could also be modified by Leitz to accept the Camcraft / TPI / Leitz NY motor drive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 18, 2023 Share #9 Â Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, zeitz said: To be complete, M2 cameras, not just MD cameras, that were not produced as M2-Mot cameras could also be modified by Leitz to accept the Camcraft / TPI / Leitz NY motor drive. Malcolm Taylor has modified various M cameras to accept motors. When I talked to him about it he said that provided parts were available he could modify an M4 but it would not be a cheap conversion! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share #10  Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, pgk said: Malcolm Taylor has modified various M cameras to accept motors. When I talked to him about it he said that provided parts were available he could modify an M4 but it would not be a cheap conversion! I doubt I would live long enough to see the results. Coming up to 4½ years so far on my 250FF, which on our progress phone calls, has been "nearly finished" for the last 18 months. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 18, 2023 Share #11  Posted March 18, 2023 Malcolm is thorough, but certainly not fast🙂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share #12  Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, pgk said: Malcolm is thorough, but certainly not fast🙂. I have had to explain my health issues to him and asked him to hurry up before either he or I pop our clogs. 4½ years is too long for any repair. Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted March 18, 2023 Share #13 Â Posted March 18, 2023 My Leica repair man, now retired, must have the record for the fastest turnaround. I posted the camera to him on day 1, he got it day 2 serviced it and posted it back. I got it back on day 3. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted March 18, 2023 Share #14  Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: I have had to explain my health issues to him and asked him to hurry up before either he or I pop our clogs. 4½ years is too long for any repair. Wilson I had one camera repair take over 3 years - that was long enough. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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