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This viewing angle and the transparent clouds made a very atmospheric picture from. Like it a lot!

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1 hour ago, lanetomlane said:
Spitfire Over London - using an image of a Spitfire I took whilst in a 'chaser' aircraft, probably only about twenty feet away. The London background was taken with a Leica T, whilst waiting to land at Heathrow and the Spitfire was taken with the SL2 (24-90mm Vario-Elmarit set at 40mm) on flight from Biggin Hill.

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Like it - the composite image reminded me of this classic aerial view of Edinburgh through the clouds.

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Is that one of the IAC versions?

Nice composition although the modern London background and the passengers canopy do look a bit confusing. Somehow like a video game animation.

The "left curve angle" shot is well selected as the rear canopy does not look too strange because a larger part of the rear canopy is covered by the wing section.

Well done!

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On 3/5/2023 at 10:39 AM, lanetomlane said:
Spitfire Over London - using an image of a Spitfire I took whilst in a 'chaser' aircraft, probably only about twenty feet away. The London background was taken with a Leica T, whilst waiting to land at Heathrow and the Spitfire was taken with the SL2 (24-90mm Vario-Elmarit set at 40mm) on flight from Biggin Hill.

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Great image Tom :) 

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It's interesting.

Obviously not a "capture" as it is a result of the artists view in post production.  Not a photograph, but an image resulting of use of photographs to create a new reality....but superbly well crafted and elegantly presented.

Great craftsmanship and tasteful composition. Beautiful and effective result.  

Most leica (Specialy M) photography is about capturing the moment....but, heck.... I don't think there's anything wrong with creating your own moment if you can do it at this level.   Maybe even if you can't. 

Well done.

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4 hours ago, S Maclean said:

It's interesting.

Obviously not a "capture" as it is a result of the artists view in post production.  Not a photograph, but an image resulting of use of photographs to create a new reality....but superbly well crafted and elegantly presented.

Great craftsmanship and tasteful composition. Beautiful and effective result.  

Most leica (Specialy M) photography is about capturing the moment....but, heck.... I don't think there's anything wrong with creating your own moment if you can do it at this level.   Maybe even if you can't. 

Well done.

Really? 

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16 hours ago, S Maclean said:

In my opinion, yes. I am not taking value or merit from it. But if it's a combinatoin of two images pasted together then that's what it is

I was referring to your assertion that, "Leica photography is about capturing the moment" .... which is a very dogmatic and incorrect belief. Leica cameras, in common with other manufacturers' cameras, are used for a multitude of photographic applications ... and not just for capturing 'moments'. 

Please consider reading 'The Leica in Professional Practice" by H Stöckler .... Fountain Press 1954. The book documents many Leica photographic genres apart from photographing 'moments' ... including scientific documentary / record / medical / architecture / engineering etc etc ... imaging. And all tackled using Leica rangefinder cameras.  In common with other manufacturers' offerings, Leica cameras developed into 'photographic systems' by offering 'system accessories' – enabling all types of 'non-moment' imaging.  

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4 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said:

I was referring to your assertion that, "Leica photography is about capturing the moment" .... which is a very dogmatic and incorrect belief. Leica cameras, in common with other manufacturers' cameras, are used for a multitude of photographic applications ... and not just for capturing 'moments'. 

Please consider reading 'The Leica in Professional Practice" by H Stöckler .... Fountain Press 1954. The book documents many Leica photographic genres apart from photographing 'moments' ... including scientific documentary / record / medical / architecture / engineering etc etc ... imaging. And all tackled using Leica rangefinder cameras.  In common with other manufacturers' offerings, Leica cameras developed into 'photographic systems' by offering 'system accessories' – enabling all types of 'non-moment' imaging.  

Man, so heavy!

I happily correct my statement to: "Leica M photography is TO ME about capturing the moment.  Although the superb optics and craftmanship behind the brand allow for any application possible with great results.  Of course I am not skilled or worthy enough to be able to adequately capture fast sports and moments with the M camera, but greater photographers are.  On low light I may have some trouble using the rangefinder but that's just because I am older.  One does not need high-zoom lenses with an M system either.  But outside of the M system of course you can get a Q, S, SL system for example.  Leica photography is limited, like everything, by the photographer."

 

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8 hours ago, bobtodrick said:

Yup...call it an illustration...but don't call it a photo.

Consider double, triple, quadruple etc etc exposures on a single film frame – the final composite negative / positive 'image' is a photograph.

Pre-digital era, I regularly composed multiple exposure images on one slide film frame using flashlight with different coloured filters. The results were creative 'composite' photographs. 

Composite photographs have been around since the beginnings of photography in the 1850s.

https://www.terragalleria.com/blog/are-composite-photographs-truthful/

Photographic imaging, is not, and never has been, about just 'one moment'. 

Dismissing composite photographs says much about critics' failures to fully acknowledge photographic creativity, their attempts to stifle artistic expression, and their photographic bias. 

And even in the darkroom, one can argue that 'burning in' is not 'one moment' – it's one moment 'stacked'  – as exemplified by master darkroom technician Ansel Adams', "artistic licence" when creating e.g., the multiple versions of his "Moon over Hernandez" – all different – all from one negative – and none are mere, "illustrations" . 

 

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4 hours ago, dkCambridgeshire said:

Consider double, triple, quadruple etc etc exposures on a single film frame – the final composite negative / positive 'image' is a photograph.

Pre-digital era, I regularly composed multiple exposure images on one slide film frame using flashlight with different coloured filters. The results were creative 'composite' photographs. 

Composite photographs have been around since the beginnings of photography in the 1850s.

https://www.terragalleria.com/blog/are-composite-photographs-truthful/

Photographic imaging, is not, and never has been, about just 'one moment'. 

Dismissing composite photographs says much about critics' failures to fully acknowledge photographic creativity, their attempts to stifle artistic expression, and their photographic bias. 

And even in the darkroom, one can argue that 'burning in' is not 'one moment' – it's one moment 'stacked'  – as exemplified by master darkroom technician Ansel Adams', "artistic licence" when creating e.g., the multiple versions of his "Moon over Hernandez" – all different – all from one negative – and none are mere, "illustrations" . 

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...mine is still this is a photo illustration.

Dodging and burning are done to enhance an image that was taken as a whole.   This greatly differs from double exposures in the darkroom or on the computer.

This has been a contentious issue for many years...examples being the infamous 1982 National Geo Great Pyramid cover that was digitally altered...and some of Gene Smith's darkroom double exposures that he was taken to task for.  One only has to look at many magazines...images like this would be called a photo illustration.

Again...I'm not saying the OP's image isn't very good...and I will give him credit for saying it was a melded image. 

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Photography is a multifaceted means of expression which is not limited to pure documentary styles of imaging – in the same way that 'writing' is multifaceted and not limited to documentary reporting. There is no rule or law stating that a creative photograph is not a 'proper' photograph – or that  Leica / Nikon / Canon et al camera photographs must conform to too rigid 'tunnel visioned' types of imaging. 

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