chris_tribble Posted November 10, 2008 Share #41 Posted November 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Stuck - never. Won't fire with a dead battery situations - whenever the battery's dead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j_lir Posted November 10, 2008 Share #42 Posted November 10, 2008 countless times with my bodies. I've shot thousands and thousands of frames as i shoot stage work and anticipate missing the focus @ 1.4 often. i really hate it when i only have 15 minutes to shoot (first 3 songs approximately) and the camera fills its buffer and locks up. that's awesome. I'm fumbling with baseplates and batteries in precious time. but i'm sticking it out for some hopes of everything working out in the end. we shall see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2008 Share #43 Posted November 10, 2008 Your camera is broken. Send it to Solms. An M8 does not stop working when the buffer is full. It just slows down its framerate and shoots a frame as soon as the buffer has written it. That is about one shot a second. So: eleven shots @ 2fps and after that a shot a second until the card is full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
de dirk Posted November 10, 2008 Share #44 Posted November 10, 2008 towards the end of the two years warranty period, it has developed this tick, and does it now every second time that i put it to use. i use sandisk ultra II cards of 2 gb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted November 10, 2008 Share #45 Posted November 10, 2008 never after 2000 actuations, knock on wood! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted November 10, 2008 Share #46 Posted November 10, 2008 Your camera is broken. Send it to Solms. An M8 does not stop working when the buffer is full. It just slows down its framerate and shoots a frame as soon as the buffer has written it. That is about one shot a second.So: eleven shots @ 2fps and after that a shot a second until the card is full. I don't think it has anything to do with the buffer filling up. It seems to be related to timing issues, specifically when manually firing the shutter rapidly in C mode. C mode seems to allow more rapid manual shutter actuation - but perhaps doesn't deal with the timing very well (especially when there is low battery). I can get a flashing "-- --" in the VF after just a couple of frames which does prevent further shutter actuation, presumably until the buffer clears. However that doesn't always happen, and lockup or gross overexposure can result instead. It probably is an issue specific to some cameras, however it's probably also an issue that is only exposed with particular shooting styles. For example, mine locks up and does the overexposure trick a lot more often in low light / high iso shooting. It also requires reasonably rapid manual shutter actuations. I'll be sending mine in for service and upgrade soon, so hopefully at least some of that will be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 10, 2008 Share #47 Posted November 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I did exactly what you described on 1250, 1/60th. The camera took 11 shots in rapid succession, and then slowed down to about 1 fps or slightly faster ad infinitum, displaying " -- " between the shots. That is the way it should behave. Anything else is out of spec and should be adressed.It does the same if I fire each shot individually as fast as I can, except that I sometimes seem to exceed 2 fps and overtake the camera. Then it will fire immediately after without hitch. This is an older camera too: 3101100 and over two years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 10, 2008 Share #48 Posted November 10, 2008 Never on 4 different M8's. Total actuation between all 4, about 15000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted November 10, 2008 Share #49 Posted November 10, 2008 never Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted November 10, 2008 Share #50 Posted November 10, 2008 3 times in 6 months' light use. Slightly annoying when you have to take the Luigi case off as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstotler Posted November 10, 2008 Share #51 Posted November 10, 2008 I mean when after a shot it just doesn't do anything else, not even turns off with the on-off switch, reviving only after removing the battery and putting it back again.It happened to me twice today in a 70 shot walk with a friend. I felt like an idiot... Jordan, My M8 was suffering from an *identical* problem to what you're reporting--and it wasn't the M8. It was the camera getting bad information about how much charge the Leica battery had. (Even in the face of three bars displaying on the battery level indicator. Go figure.) Since I've done the "reset the battery by draining it completely" procedure, my M8 has had good behavior. (I'm still using the same memory cards as before, BTW, so it's not that.) The problem as reported at the top of the thread to which I've linked, below, doesn't *look* like yours, but the procedure described by Carsten in the second post to drain and reset the battery is what I used: Procedure here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/31086-incorrect-battery-meter-reading.html Others in this thread aren't diagnosing it firmly as a battery level problem and that's reasonable, but that's what it was for my M8. Anyway, I'd try this easy procedure on yours to see if that makes the problem vanish before poking harder. Thanks, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted November 10, 2008 Share #52 Posted November 10, 2008 occasionally but less recently (after I dropped it)...seriously at the beginning quite often...i.e nearly every time I used it but lately very seldom. andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryzet Posted November 10, 2008 Share #53 Posted November 10, 2008 countless times with my bodies.I've shot thousands and thousands of frames as i shoot stage work and anticipate missing the focus @ 1.4 often. i really hate it when i only have 15 minutes to shoot (first 3 songs approximately) and the camera fills its buffer and locks up. that's awesome. I'm fumbling with baseplates and batteries in precious time. but i'm sticking it out for some hopes of everything working out in the end. we shall see. get a nikon d3 and youll never look back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 10, 2008 Share #54 Posted November 10, 2008 Happened to me for the very first time today. Never happened before, but it was weird--it just stuck. Metering didn't work, had to remove the battery and reboot. And then it was fine again. That's the first time though in many, many thousands of shots. I wish I could remember what, exactly, I did, but I didn't really notice anything different. Hmmm. Sunspots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertW Posted November 10, 2008 Share #55 Posted November 10, 2008 After the firmware upgrade, never;) . Previously, maybe once or twice per month . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalippe Posted November 10, 2008 Share #56 Posted November 10, 2008 I did exactly what you described on 1250, 1/60th. The camera took 11 shots in rapid succession, and then slowed down to about 1 fps or slightly faster ad infinitum, displaying " -- " between the shots. That is the way it should behave. Anything else is out of spec and should be adressed.It does the same if I fire each shot individually as fast as I can, except that I sometimes seem to exceed 2 fps and overtake the camera. Then it will fire immediately after without hitch. This is an older camera too: 3101100 and over two years old. I'm not saying that all M8s do this, but the test that you're trying isn't usually sufficient, in my experience, to create the problem. It has typically happened to me when I've taken lots (50-100) shots over a short period of time (5-10 minutes). Usually during this time the buffer will have filled up at least a few times, and even when not filled is almost never completely empty, especially if I'm shooting in raw+jpg. Even then it usually does not happen, so IF your camera is subject to this problem, reproducing it will probably take more than firing one or two buffer filling bursts. In response to the battery hypothesis, I've had this happen within days of performing the battery re-calibration process on a battery that was either completely full or at 2 bars. However, take that with a grain of salt as that was with a camera that was locking up quite often and under much less stressful situations than the one described in the above paragraph. Amazingly, after a few days of locking up more or less whenever I used it, the camera righted itself and went back to the usual (occasional locking under rapid-fire shooting). David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 11, 2008 Share #57 Posted November 11, 2008 it used to happen to me extremely often. after many many trips via ups/fedex to nj and germany i finally drove out there and they fixed it in 20 minutes and knock on wood it works fine since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalippe Posted November 11, 2008 Share #58 Posted November 11, 2008 it used to happen to me extremely often. after many many trips via ups/fedex to nj and germany i finally drove out there and they fixed it in 20 minutes and knock on wood it works fine since. Do you have any idea what they did during those 20 minutes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 11, 2008 Share #59 Posted November 11, 2008 they mentioned something about a loose wire / connection somewhere. not sure why it was not fixed any of the other times i sent the camera in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalippe Posted November 11, 2008 Share #60 Posted November 11, 2008 they mentioned something about a loose wire / connection somewhere. not sure why it was not fixed any of the other times i sent the camera in. Strange... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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