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vor 1 Stunde schrieb LBJ2:

Wild guess:

1. I see Timecode interface listed on the rumored specs. Looks like it could be a Timecode port, although an awkward place for a port as I would expect the port to be next to the other ports. 

2. Or is it some type of new On/Off interface. Otherwise where did the On/Off switch go. 

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The round part at the top left of the back of the camera may be the screen release button 😉

The on-off switch may be integrated into the upper left wheel?

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Another question, is there a reflection in the handgrip, it looks like a glass of a flashlight?

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Personally not feeling a lot of love for this iteration if all is as advertised, but we'll see.  A reasonable set of incremental improvements, but from the reporting no where near enough to move me as yet.  Worse, I'm beginning to get an uneasy feeling that the SL is becoming more of an uber Panasonic than a mini Leica S. 

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1 hour ago, Sohail said:

You know, if I had my way, I'd get rid of all its video features too, and just have it be a strictly stills camera. What's always attracted to me the SL is its minimalist design philosophy— not a Swiss Army knife! :) 

I realized this dream in the M11 👍🏼

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29 minutes ago, Tailwagger said:

Personally not feeling a lot of love for this iteration if all is as advertised, but we'll see.  A reasonable set of incremental improvements, but from the reporting no where near enough to move me as yet.  Worse, I'm beginning to get an uneasy feeling that the SL is becoming more of an uber Panasonic than a mini Leica S. 

Interesting perspective. I'm still holding out for official product images, at a minimum taken with better lighting ha ha 

I do however expect L² Technology all over the SL3 with the hopes that Leica High Design prevails. 

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17 minutes ago, LBJ2 said:

I realized this dream in the M11 👍🏼

Same here. The most unique of Leica’s repertoire, IMHO. Maybe a tech camera like an Alpa, or the Hasselblad 907 would give a similar minimalist experience. It’s part of why I prefer to often use the M11, even though I also have a GFX100S.

These images of the SL3 are a bit tricky to decipher, and I daresay in the hand could be a very different experience, but these images are slightly giving me Panasonic vibes ….. I think simply due to the tilting rear screen and the extra knob on the top plate etc.

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Very sad to see what they might be releasing. It doesn't even come close to serveral years old cameras like Z8 or A1. The sensor is not good for hybrid work. I got to wait for the SL3-S. The SL3-S will have to address the shortcomings either with a reduced price or better features.

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Am 13.2.2024 um 18:37 schrieb hdmesa:

The same EVF as the SL2/S? Even the A7R5 has a 9M dot EVF.

I also hope(d) for a class-leading EVF in the SL3, not only in resolution but also magnification.

I believe you also have a X2D - how does this EVF compare to the current Sl2?

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Well that's the SL3 written off then😁!

Anyone remember the loud criticism of the SL2 for losing the design aesthetics of the SL?

Leica could be disappointed that their 'leak' (it always happens about a month before launch day😉) has fallen flat.
More likely they are delighted that it is causing all this attention. Two pages on in 20 hrs since the 'leak'. Allowing for a bit of acceleration we might reach 150 by launch.

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Change is hard, haha. Still, I do think it is hard not to see the changes as incremental, if they are as they are indicated in these leaks. The SL of course was different than most other cameras on the market when it was released, and the SL2 added some very substantial changes (stabilization, double the resolution, multi-shot, better video specs, better handling, double the lcd resolution, better viewfinder, double the fps, and so on). In this case the biggest changes seem to be the tilting screen and the PDAF. For me at least, neither of those are even desirable, much less needed. The small bump in resolution could be nice, but 47 to 60 is a smaller jump than 24 to 47, for example. Better DR and high ISO? Why not? But those weren't exactly awful in the SL2 (though you might think they were if you read this forum), and they are still better in the SL2S. If it is as described, it feels kind of like a placeholder camera for until they can produce something substantially better. Honestly, kind of like the M240 to the M10. But this is my perspective as someone who rarely photographs fast moving objects from the ground, lol. All that said, the true measure of a camera is not the specs, but the way it works in the hand and how it actually makes images. Hopefully the sum is more than its parts...something Leica has certainly pulled off before.

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5 hours ago, Sohail said:

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If this is it, I have to say it's gross! Looks like a big clunky crappy old DSLR. If style or elegance is a consideration in buying into the SL system, the SL2 with its minimalist design is way ahead here. Opinions will of course differ, but if they cite functionality then perhaps a Sony or a Panasonic is a more fitting choice. It would be interesting to see the research, if ever there is any, on how many shots are actually taken with a tiltable screen that couldn't have been shot otherwise. 

It still looks nicer than all other available mirrorless cameras (nothing compares to certain film cameras).

Shooting from the hip is difficult if you cannot tilt the LCD. Also, landscape shots with a camera very low to the ground are easier with a tiltable LCD. I only and regularly tilt LCD when shooting on a tripod. Otherwise, I shoot only with EVF.

It would be nice if tilting the LCD would disable the eye sensor and enable LV on LCD like it is done with Q3.

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2 hours ago, smooth said:

Very sad to see what they might be releasing. It doesn't even come close to serveral years old cameras like Z8 or A1. The sensor is not good for hybrid work. I got to wait for the SL3-S. The SL3-S will have to address the shortcomings either with a reduced price or better features.

I am still searching for the correct psychological term. Something is offered ( or in this case, a rumour) and it does not meet wants or needs and it triggers a completely emotional response like a jilted lover, instead of just moving on to a more suitable product. 
Nobody is holding a gun to your head to force you to buy it, or,indeed, even like it. 

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42 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Well that's the SL3 written off then😁!

Anyone remember the loud criticism of the SL2 for losing the design aesthetics of the SL?

Leica could be disappointed that their 'leak' (it always happens about a month before launch day😉) has fallen flat.
More likely they are delighted that it is causing all this attention. Two pages on in 20 hrs since the 'leak'. Allowing for a bit of acceleration we might reach 150 by launch.

Does anybody remember the more recent criticism of Q3, even after the launch? Launched almost a year ago, it is still out of stock everywhere.

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vor 25 Minuten schrieb SrMi:

Does anybody remember the more recent criticism of Q3, even after the launch? Launched almost a year ago, it is still out of stock everywhere.

I wonder if it is a strategy to produce less than demand just to make the product more desirable ?

 

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