Ecar Posted January 30, 2023 Share #41 Â Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 48 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said: Â Looking at all 4 lenses together, while nothing scientific, it really amazes me how great these first tries that Leica had at creating a 35mm and 50mm lenses were. You cannot see almost any difference in the center, and really the main improvement the Summilux offers VS the Elmar are the better coatings and 2.5 extra stops of light. That obviously comes at the expense of 2x or 3x the weight and cost. Interesting comparison. The other expense is likely also a somewhat "compromised" optical design, in order to enable the Summiluxes to perform at an "acceptable" level across the aperture range. 2.5 stops is a huge difference in optical terms - and there's only so much you can do without size, weight and cost becoming prohibitive (well beyond 2x or 3x). Therefore, optical design too has to pay its price to speed. This is why it is a science (art?) of compromise... Edited January 30, 2023 by Ecar 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shirubadanieru Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share #42  Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Elmar 50mm f3.5 ‘early type’ (1926) & M10M shot at f3.5 and at f12.5  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 31, 2023 by shirubadanieru 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4665438'>More sharing options...
ocean2059 Posted February 1, 2023 Share #43  Posted February 1, 2023 Elmar 50/3.5 LTM (red scale) with M9 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4667427'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted February 2, 2023 Share #44  Posted February 2, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5cm Elmar f3.5 on M8 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5cm Elmar f3.5 on M8 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4668853'>More sharing options...
JMF Posted February 2, 2023 Share #45  Posted February 2, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5cm Elmar f3.5 on M8 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5cm Elmar f3.5 on M8 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4668854'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #46  Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) DII and 50mm f3.5 early Elmar shots (Gold 200)  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 3, 2023 by shirubadanieru 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4669747'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #47  Posted February 3, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Same as above : ) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4669749'>More sharing options...
ocean2059 Posted February 4, 2023 Share #48  Posted February 4, 2023 I am kind of surprised by how good the center resolving power of my Elmar 35/3.5 (1948) is with M10R. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4671881'>More sharing options...
ocean2059 Posted February 4, 2023 Share #49  Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is about 200% and the image was taken at f/3.5. Edited February 4, 2023 by ocean2059 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is about 200% and the image was taken at f/3.5. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4671888'>More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share #50  Posted February 5, 2023 Elmar 35mm f3.5 is amazing indeed! Have it with me now Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4671964'>More sharing options...
ocean2059 Posted February 5, 2023 Share #51  Posted February 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said: Elmar 35mm f3.5 is amazing indeed! Have it with me now Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Very nice and true vintage setup!  Here is my more modern digital setup.  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share #52  Posted February 5, 2023 7 hours ago, ocean2059 said: Very nice and true vintage setup!  Here is my more modern digital setup.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Our Elmars are from the same year by the way, so I believe yours should also have blue coating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted February 5, 2023 Share #53  Posted February 5, 2023 Coated Elmar 35/3.5 from 1948 on M11 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4673138'>More sharing options...
ocean2059 Posted February 6, 2023 Share #54  Posted February 6, 2023 14 hours ago, shirubadanieru said: Our Elmars are from the same year by the way, so I believe yours should also have blue coating. Yes, my copy of the Elmar 35/3.5 has the blue coating.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10R with Elmar 35/3.5 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10R with Elmar 35/3.5 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4673606'>More sharing options...
oldwino Posted February 6, 2023 Share #55  Posted February 6, 2023 Leica II with 1932 uncoated nickel Elmar 5cm. XP2 in Diafine. Probably wide open, as it was getting pretty dark.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4673616'>More sharing options...
chris7273 Posted February 7, 2023 Share #56  Posted February 7, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 6:22 PM, Ray Vonn said: Can't wait to see any pictures done with the Sooky. Photos are coming… here is the setup :  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4675545'>More sharing options...
chris7273 Posted February 7, 2023 Share #57  Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Sample images taken with the Sooky-M no post treatment : from dng to jpg only one image with the Sooky at its max ratio (1/7.5) and another with the Elmar at its mfd (1m) no artistic prétention All at f/5.6   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 7, 2023 by chris7273 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4675634'>More sharing options...
chris7273 Posted February 7, 2023 Share #58  Posted February 7, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4675637'>More sharing options...
chris7273 Posted February 7, 2023 Share #59  Posted February 7, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362901-elmar-35mm-50mm-f35-an-appreciation-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4675638'>More sharing options...
84bravo Posted February 7, 2023 Share #60  Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 8:18 PM, ocean2059 said: Yes, my copy of the Elmar 35/3.5 has the blue coating.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10R with Elmar 35/3.5 Rally round the Virginians! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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