bourne Posted October 5, 2022 Share #21 Posted October 5, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't know if this is the right place to introduce the question of how the latest, 11 blade, 7 element 35 summicron holds up against these two fine lenses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pyrogallol Posted October 5, 2022 Share #22 Posted October 5, 2022 I had a classic period 35mm Summilux but did not like it. The dreadful two little arms of the diaphragm adjustment got in the way of the focussing. I have a type 3 Summicron but much prefer the 35mm f2.8 Summaron, and have several of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agfa100 Posted October 5, 2022 Share #23 Posted October 5, 2022 Ok here are a few shots with a 35mm summicron Ver 1. The two chinese women were shot with a Ricoh GXR with the M module. The one of the bust was Wide open on a Sony A7s. It's a great lens I picked mine up used in 1972. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/338977-35mm-summicron-8-elements-or-35mm-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4525530'>More sharing options...
James6714 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted October 10, 2022 Thanks to all for your inputs. I came across an 8-elements from Germany online dealers with a very attractive price, bought it and is coming to me soon. Will update how it plays out. James. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James6714 Posted June 5, 2024 Author Share #25 Posted June 5, 2024 My lens is the goggle version, it looks odd but I like odd things. For colour photography, it has the warm colour palette, and for black and white, it is where it shines. The difference compared to the modern lenses, is not a lot but it is is different. I can’t describe it on words, maybe others can chime in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted July 18, 2024 Share #26 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) I've had both lenses for many years, but I still prefer the steelrim. It is nr.1777XXXX, without goggles. I like it because it draws a bit painterly and it has a wonderful "bad wheather" bokeh. gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm f1.4 steel rim) leica m2 Amsterdam, 2024 Edited July 18, 2024 by Erik van Straten 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted August 11, 2024 Share #27 Posted August 11, 2024 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) On 10/4/2022 at 3:32 PM, shirubadanieru said: Both are the best 35mm leica has made from my pov. 8e can focus to 0.7m, and has a nice glow wide open. Lux is softer at 1.4, but the glow it provides, especially in b&w, is amazing. 8e is overpriced for what it is, summilux still attainable. If i had to pick one, lux. But if i could I’d own both. From f2.8 they’re the same. I've owned the pre-ASPH for 2 years. My German-made lens (not that it matters) is a mint-ish 1991 that happens to focus down to 0.7m. It's relatively sharper wide open than other examples I've seen and I imagine that's due to newer coatings on my lens. I paid slightly over $3,000. 8E prices have softened. The copy I purchased locally 2 days ago in the Bay Area (also made in Germany) was made in 1969 (the last year of production) and I paid only slightly more than my pre-A at $3,500. I'm still getting to know the 8E; I plan on using it mostly on my M10M while I use the pre-A for color. The 8E is sharper wide open than the pre-A and is lower in contrast. The latter definitely has more glow wide open. Both are lovely. Erik Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 11, 2024 by egrossman 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/338977-35mm-summicron-8-elements-or-35mm-summilux-pre-asph/?do=findComment&comment=5474222'>More sharing options...
f8low Posted August 12, 2024 Share #28 Posted August 12, 2024 On 7/18/2024 at 10:51 PM, Erik van Straten said: I've had both lenses for many years, but I still prefer the steelrim. It is nr.1777XXXX, without goggles. I like it because it draws a bit painterly and it has a wonderful "bad wheather" bokeh. Well, well, there's a bit more magic going on than just the lens 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 13, 2024 Share #29 Posted August 13, 2024 I can't seem to see any glow out of my LTM Summicron 35/2 v1 from 1963. Neat difference with my later Summilux 35/1.4 v2 that flares also significantly more than this LTM Summicron. M11, LTM 35/2 v1, f/2, macro-contrast adjusted with no sharpness added in PP. https://photos.smugmug.com/Diverse/n-QFBj4/Leica-M11-Leica-352-v1/i-rwPqxFZ/0/MFp9F55rgvStwbctSXKJzMskmXRt284nxhsL3T2SB/X4/M1108729_sipss-X4.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Diverse/n-QFBj4/Leica-M11-Leica-352-v1/i-KKvpWG6/0/LGQWb2NbVLHrRfQzbKWSV94CSDw3L4WxwtwQNJbQN/X4/M1108835_sipss-X4.jpg https://photos.smugmug.com/Diverse/n-QFBj4/Leica-M11-Leica-352-v1/i-NPXgjp7/0/L7xPQzjswWNSqpsdJvdH55RgXjMM4cVgHzqkZ8Fzk/X4/M1108847_sipss-X4.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 14, 2024 Share #30 Posted August 14, 2024 19 minutes ago, Giacomo Busoni said: the bokeh is amazing. Would love to see a side by side with you Summilux 35/1.4 v2 at comparable F2 aperture... Too painful to do it well sorry but i'm not alone to own both lenses here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxel69 Posted August 14, 2024 Share #31 Posted August 14, 2024 Hello, at first, sorry for my bumpy English I also own both and like them both. I compared the two at the beginning, the 35 Summilux pre is of course very special at open aperture, some people love it for that. At f2.0 it already delivers good image quality. The vignette is already noticeably reduced. The 35 mm Summicron is not as good as the Lux at f2.0, the vignette is pronounced. The bokeh of the Summilux is nice, but I still prefer that of the Summicron. From aperture 2.8 - 4 I would say the lenses are very similar. After that, the imaging performance improves in favour of the Summicron. Perhaps it is the often quoted microcontrast that makes the Summicron look sharper in the details, over the entire image field. What the Summicron does not master so well is direct backlighting. Here I see a slight advantage over the Summilux. It often produces this beautiful flare. The Summicron is not so predictable in backlighting. Haptically, both lenses are great. The Summicron has the advantage of being able to use a protective filter without a lens hood. I prefer this solution. If I didn't have one and wanted to choose one, I would go for the Summilux or the new Steelrim based on my current knowledge. I think the current prices for the 8-Elements lenses are excessive. I am happy to own both lenses. Differences can definitely be recognised. Greetings Axel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #32 Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm f1.4 steelrim (old, around 1960)) leica m2 Carla, Amsterdam, 2024 Edited August 21, 2024 by Erik van Straten 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #33 Posted August 21, 2024 gelatin silver print (summicron 35mm f2 (8 elements)) leica m2 Zwolle, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #34 Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) This is shot with a prototype of the Chinese made 35mm f/2, Amsterdam, 2020. gelatin silver print (prototype of the Chinese made 35mm f/2) leica m3 Edited August 21, 2024 by Erik van Straten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #35 Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) This is with the steelrim summilux 35mm f1.4 v2. The lens is from around 1965. gelatine silver print (summilux 35mm steelrim v2) leica m5 Amsterdam, KNSM, 2017. Edited August 21, 2024 by Erik van Straten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #36 Posted August 21, 2024 (edited) gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm steelrim v2) leica m5 Amsterdam, KNSM, 2017. Edited August 21, 2024 by Erik van Straten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 21, 2024 Share #37 Posted August 21, 2024 gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm f1.4 steel rim v2) leica mp Amsterdam, 2001 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 22, 2024 Share #38 Posted August 22, 2024 gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm f1.4 steel rim v2) leica m5 Amsterdam, KNSM, 2017 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik van Straten Posted August 22, 2024 Share #39 Posted August 22, 2024 gelatin silver print (summilux 35mm f1.4 steel rim v2) leica m5 Amsterdam, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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