New edition of the Leica Summilux-M 1.4/35mm ASPH.

[otto.f]

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16 hours ago, Photoworks said:

If we call the previews 35, 35 FLE, what are we calling the new one? 
35 FLE-CF?

That’s what I thought too, 35 FLE-CF, doesn’t type that easy though. FLECF then…

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[mrmalo]

Does anybody here have any experience with this new style integrated hood?

Does it become loose or rattle over time?
Does it ever jam with dust etc? 

I like the idea of being able to order a replacement hood if I ever damaged it.

Edited September 16, 2022 by mrmalo

[hillavoider]

15 minutes ago, mrmalo said:

Does anybody here have any experience with this new style integrated hood?

Does it become loose or rattle over time?
Does it ever jam with dust etc? 

I like the idea of being able to order a replacement hood if I ever damaged it.

Looks the same as the 50 and 75 apo which is very good to use. Mine are not loose or rattle after many years.
50 apo still the king as it has a slide on cap 

Edited September 16, 2022 by hillavoider

[mrmalo]

15 minutes ago, hillavoider said:

Looks the same as the 50 and 75 apo which is very good to use. Mine are not loose or rattle after many years.
50 apo still the king as it has a slide on cap 

That's great to know!

I use the metal slide on cap from the APO Summicron-M 35mm on my FLE when the ring protector is attached. I wonder if it will still fit on the FLEv2.

[otto.f]

19 hours ago, Al Brown said:

It should be a matter of honor. One should not be a player if he/she won't go along with the rules of the game.

I don’t see any honor or other moral issues involved. If someone decides not to buy if it’s his turn, there is no harm done to anyone if the next one in the line can buy. There’s so much time between announcement and availability that anything can happen in between. You can’t blame a customer for that. 

[S Maclean]

Ordered mine, no expected delivery date yet.

I was on the market for an FLE but got a Nokton 1.2 and love it.  The small improvements over the FLE may not justify an upgrade over that lens, but they do justify to me an upgrade over the Nokton. 11 blades, 0.4 focusing and the hood (which I like in the 50) Are all very expelling to me.  That plus the performance that, even if equal to the FLE is probably better than the Voigtlander.

I have then 35 Cron, terrific lens and perfect size, but I actually use the Nokton more for the close focusing and the slight softness, plus the very, very creamy bokeh. It is basically a 3 that behaves like a 75.

I don’t really favor the “nervous” bokeh of the FLE, that is something i really like better on the Nokton 1.2, I am hoping that is corrected with the 11 blade system.

 

[Photoworks]

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1 hour ago, otto.f said:

I don’t see any honor or other moral issues involved. If someone decides not to buy if it’s his turn, there is no harm done to anyone if the next one in the line can buy. There’s so much time between announcement and availability that anything can happen in between. You can’t blame a customer for that. 

BUY BUY BUY! and then there is a special edition!

I will wait few months and buy one used ;-). I have FLE and it still wonderful .

I suppose they are updating all popular lenses to close focus. no need to limit yourself , 50 Summilux should come soon too. Well my Noctilux will not come with close focus.

[sergiomarried]

5 hours ago, mrmalo said:

Does anybody here have any experience with this new style integrated hood?

Does it become loose or rattle over time?
Does it ever jam with dust etc? 

I like the idea of being able to order a replacement hood if I ever damaged it.

This hood is a bit of a joke in my opinion. Convenient from a functional design standpoint but low reliability for real use protection compared to FLE square external version. I had my 50 Lux Asph. “dropping” without almost noticing and thankfully Leica fixed at no cost but I didn’t dare to do it myself… It’s a bit delicate mechanism to be honest. I much rather like the external sturdy version way better but perhaps less convenient, especially for filter changing. Cheers and enjoy all 35mm are amazing!

[elmars]

The new Summilux has the type of shade of the Apo Summicron 50 mm. This seems to be more stable than the ones of the Summilux 50 mm and the Noctilux 50 mm.

[BigBabyEarl]

I really want to know how this exists next to the 35 APO. Which one do you grab/own. 

[mikeamosau]

Don’t really understand the new design philosophy for these newer M lenses. The rangefinder system is not made for close focus without the EVF… and then if using that, what’s the point of the system? 

[bdolzani]

22 minutes ago, mikeamosau said:

Don’t really understand the new design philosophy for these newer M lenses. The rangefinder system is not made for close focus without the EVF… and then if using that, what’s the point of the system? 

I wonder if it's more Where else is there to go?? M rangefinder apparatus has been perfect for many moons already (pun intended)! 

[Photoworks]

1 hour ago, BigBabyEarl said:

I really want to know how this exists next to the 35 APO. Which one do you grab/own. 

Well, same glass from the 35 FLE. 

[Photoworks]

40 minutes ago, mikeamosau said:

Don’t really understand the new design philosophy for these newer M lenses. The rangefinder system is not made for close focus without the EVF… and then if using that, what’s the point of the system? 

Some cameras have LCD screens and attachable EVF, but you can adapt this lens to so many other cameras.

[northernlights]

On the topic of the new built in hood of the 35 FLEv2, a bit silly but I ended up buying an external screw in hood to protect the built in hood of the 50 APO against accidental knocks that can reduce the resale value. Lol  sorry digressed  

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Edited September 16, 2022 by northernlights

[northernlights]

3 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

Some cameras have LCD screens and attachable EVF, but you can adapt this lens to so many other cameras.

Agreed. Leica was thinking for increasing the reach for the use on the L mounts Leica’s, alliance cameras, and in extension even usability on mirrorless Canons, Nikons, Sony et al mounts. 

Edited September 16, 2022 by northernlights

[Photoworks]

7 minutes ago, northernlights said:

On the topic of the new built in hood of the 35 FLEv2, a bit silly but I ended up buying an external screw in hood to protect the built in hood of the 50 APO against accidental knocks that can reduce the resale value. Lol  sorry digressed  

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LOL. 

so much for small lenses. 
Do you know that a new build in shade is $250-300 for this lenses. you can even change it yourself, it is only one screw.

[Stuart Richardson]

1 hour ago, mikeamosau said:

Don’t really understand the new design philosophy for these newer M lenses. The rangefinder system is not made for close focus without the EVF… and then if using that, what’s the point of the system? 

I think the point is that you can use it like a normal rangefinder in all situations longer than 70cm, and if you would like to use closer than that, you can use the live view (which nearly all the digital M's since the 240 have) of an EVF. In the old days there was a large selection of accessories to enable the M to be used as a main camera. Things like the original visoflex, bellows, copy stand adapters etc. Live view and the EVF have made some of those avenues viable again, so I think Leica is working to make the system more versatile, as there are not so many other ways they can keep improving the system.

The only question I would have would be if there is some sort of stop or bump between .7m and closer, so you can tell when the RF decouples. But my guess is no, and it is not that important...the Zeiss ZM lenses focused to .5m, and it was not really an issue. 

As for the lens overall, it seems like a worthwhile upgrade, but perhaps not for the owners of the FLE or ASPH. Personally, I upgraded to the FLE from the ASPH not long after it came out, and to be honest, I prefer the ergonomics of the original...I loved that weird square hood...so flat that you could easily stand the camera on it. Only the focus shift was a bit annoying. I think the new hood looks like an ergonomic improvement, but I would be a little concerned if the aperture ring is now a little close to the focus...at least for use with gloves...

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[jakontil]

The release of the new lux might release a slight tension on the 35 apo availability, with a cheaper price too, it might be tempting 

my shooting dont always exercise an apo, but been excited with its close focusing ability.. and now the lux comes with that 

[hdmesa]

2 hours ago, northernlights said:

On the topic of the new built in hood of the 35 FLEv2, a bit silly but I ended up buying an external screw in hood to protect the built in hood of the 50 APO against accidental knocks that can reduce the resale value. Lol  sorry digressed  

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Looks aside (!), if you ever get a hard impact to that hood, it's going to transfer all the impact energy to the lens thread and damage the lens itself. The original hood is designed to absorb some of the impact shock and protect the lens.