Ouroboros Posted October 11, 2022 Share #621 Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, Frase said: I had a Df and thought it was a great camera, not as small as film Nikon but much smaller than most high end DSLRs, didn't feel cheap and was a great walk around camera. Same sensor and processor as the D3, which was a landmark dslr in it's time with very clean files at iso 6400. Can't say the same for the D3 sensor though, which was the worst dslr I've ever used for picking up oily residue from the shutter. I used a pair of D3's for wedding photography for several years until the D4 & later D5 were released. A pity Nikon didn't continue the Df as a range with higher sensor resolution as things evolved, it had a nice pseudo retro feel but unfortunately only one cf card slot. Anyway, back on topic: If this M6 reissue is limited to 500, a) wtf is the point of that?!! b) The I love My M6 Reissue But I'm Not Sure Why thread is going to be a bit thin. Edited October 11, 2022 by Ouroboros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UliWer Posted October 11, 2022 Share #622 Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ouroboros said: If this M6 reissue is limited to 500, a) wtf is the point of that?!! b) The I love My M6 Reissue But I'm Not Sure Why thread is going to be a bit thin. An unlimited number of an M6 reissue wouldn't make more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted October 11, 2022 Share #623 Posted October 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sunyforreal said: Maybe I’m wrong. But I’ll bring up an example from another German manufacturer with a similar clientele: When Porsche released the 991.1 GT3, there were many many people who were upset because Andreas Preuninger and the GT team decided to omit the manual transmission. So naturally Porsche took that as an opportunity and a few years later released the 911R which was basically a GT3 with a manual. They made a limited run of 991 units, and collectors scooped them up at MSRP and they immediately doubled or even tripled in value. To make a very long story short, Porsche saw another opportunity, and released what was basically a better version of the 911R in the 991.2 GT3 with an optional manual transmission. Non-limited model. Of course speculators, collectors and other yuppies were pissed. But Porsche sure doesn’t seem to have an issue selling GT3’s, then or now. I know cars are a pretty different market than cameras, but Leica people and Porsche people are probably more similar than they are different. And I’d like to think Leica would have the same legendary German response that Porsche would and screw the collectors over. It certainly would make me happy. It is entirely possible that Leica follows this M6 re-issue with a new M film camera. Makes everybody happy(?) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunyforreal Posted October 11, 2022 Share #624 Posted October 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, oldwino said: It is entirely possible that Leica follows this M6 re-issue with a new M film camera. Makes everybody happy(?) I hope so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted October 11, 2022 Share #625 Posted October 11, 2022 In 1999, Leica introduced the Millennium (officially Black Lacquer) changing the film line with new materials and electronics. The result was the MP/M-A, which have sold well but after twenty years, it could be time for a change. As noted, Leica never abandoned the film community and continues to produce analog cameras. The questions are, will the Leica is the Leica community willing to support changes to new materials like aluminum top plates or even a composite body? hopefully, Leica will continue to build cameras like the MP with brass top plates and black paint. It wouldn't hurt them to explore new avenues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted October 11, 2022 Share #626 Posted October 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Sunyforreal said: Maybe I’m wrong. But I’ll bring up an example from another German manufacturer with a similar clientele: When Porsche released the 991.1 GT3, there were many many people who were upset because Andreas Preuninger and the GT team decided to omit the manual transmission. So naturally Porsche took that as an opportunity and a few years later released the 911R which was basically a GT3 with a manual. They made a limited run of 991 units, and collectors scooped them up at MSRP and they immediately doubled or even tripled in value. To make a very long story short, Porsche saw another opportunity, and released what was basically a better version of the 911R in the 991.2 GT3 with an optional manual transmission. Non-limited model. Of course speculators, collectors and other yuppies were pissed. But Porsche sure doesn’t seem to have an issue selling GT3’s, then or now. I know cars are a pretty different market than cameras, but Leica people and Porsche people are probably more similar than they are different. And I’d like to think Leica would have the same legendary German response that Porsche would and screw the collectors over. It certainly would make me happy. You didn't realize you were on to something here. The previous CEO at Leica was Oliver Kaltner, who was a fan of Porsche. When the successor to the M9 was anounced, he came up with the Typ XXX nomenclature, following the practice of Porsche with their Typ 991, 993, 996 etc. This camera became popularly known as the M240. I think the proper name was M Typ 240. Of course, there were other M Typ cameras, such as the M262, etc. When Kaltner left, Leica reverted back to the nomal M model nomenclature with the M10! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted October 11, 2022 Share #627 Posted October 11, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I will be in the Portugal factory and in Wetzlar next week for the introduction of whatever this new camera is, along with whatever else Leica will be introducing. I'll report back here. 7 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted October 11, 2022 Share #628 Posted October 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Ouroboros said: Same sensor and processor as the D3, which was a landmark dslr in it's time with very clean files at iso 6400. Can't say the same for the D3 sensor though, which was the worst dslr I've ever used for picking up oily residue from the shutter. I used a pair of D3's for wedding photography for several years until the D4 & later D5 were released. A pity Nikon didn't continue the Df as a range with higher sensor resolution as things evolved, it had a nice pseudo retro feel but unfortunately only one cf card slot. Anyway, back on topic: If this M6 reissue is limited to 500, a) wtf is the point of that?!! b) The I love My M6 Reissue But I'm Not Sure Why thread is going to be a bit thin. Df had the D4 sensor and processor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 12, 2022 Share #629 Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, derleicaman said: I will be in the Portugal factory and in Wetzlar next week for the introduction of whatever this new camera is, along with whatever else Leica will be introducing. I'll report back here. Live stream it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 12, 2022 Share #630 Posted October 12, 2022 6 hours ago, madNbad said: LocalHero 1953 has a point, this may be a test run for new materials, electronics and production techniques which may mean moving on from the (more expensive to build) MP platform to a new film body. Leica would then have the opportunity to continue to make the all new M6 and much like the M-A, follow up with a meterless version. When I handle my M7, or MP, M-A etc it actually is remarkable how heavy they are! Sure they feel fantastic with that ingot-like construction, but sometimes it also seems a little silly. It would be interesting to see if they can build a lighter camera that still maintains that sense of solidity. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 12, 2022 Share #631 Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Sunyforreal said: Maybe I’m wrong. But I’ll bring up an example from another German manufacturer with a similar clientele: When Porsche released the 991.1 GT3, there were many many people who were upset because Andreas Preuninger and the GT team decided to omit the manual transmission. So naturally Porsche took that as an opportunity and a few years later released the 911R which was basically a GT3 with a manual. They made a limited run of 991 units, and collectors scooped them up at MSRP and they immediately doubled or even tripled in value. To make a very long story short, Porsche saw another opportunity, and released what was basically a better version of the 911R in the 991.2 GT3 with an optional manual transmission. Non-limited model. Of course speculators, collectors and other yuppies were pissed. But Porsche sure doesn’t seem to have an issue selling GT3’s, then or now. I know cars are a pretty different market than cameras, but Leica people and Porsche people are probably more similar than they are different. And I’d like to think Leica would have the same legendary German response that Porsche would and screw the collectors over. It certainly would make me happy. Speaking of manual transmissions, I drive a manual Mazda MX-5 Club Sport. Ok, it’s a Miata but sounds cooler saying the former! Anyway, people say how perfect the manual transmission is. And it is very nice. But until you experience the latest Porsche 6 speed manual transmission, you have not experience perfect! Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 12, 2022 Share #632 Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: Speaking of manual transmissions, I drive a manual Mazda MX-5 Club Sport. Ok, it’s a Miata but sounds cooler saying the former! Anyway, people say how perfect the manual transmission is. And it is very nice. But until you experience the latest Porsche 6 speed manual transmission, you have not experience perfect! Wow. I had a Cayman R with the 6-speed manual. It was the smoothest transmission I've ever driven. A friend of mine - a well respected Porsche mechanic and gearbox specialist - test drove my car and was blown away by how good the transmission was. I sold the car a few years ago, but I still think about that gearbox... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 12, 2022 Share #633 Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, derleicaman said: I will be in the Portugal factory and in Wetzlar next week for the introduction of whatever this new camera is, along with whatever else Leica will be introducing. I'll report back here. Looking forward to it. The guy I deal with at my local Leica dealer is flying out to Wetzlar tomorrow for 'the event'. Of course he wouldn't spill the beans, but he indirectly confirmed the rumor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunyforreal Posted October 12, 2022 Share #634 Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: Speaking of manual transmissions, I drive a manual Mazda MX-5 Club Sport. Ok, it’s a Miata but sounds cooler saying the former! Anyway, people say how perfect the manual transmission is. And it is very nice. But until you experience the latest Porsche 6 speed manual transmission, you have not experience perfect! Wow. Rad. I’ve had a few S2000s in my past, I love me a good roadster. Been actually playing with the idea of getting a NC2 Miata Club and doing the BBR super 225 kit. Something about ITBs just make me feel warm and fuzzy inside. 30 minutes ago, logan2z said: I had a Cayman R with the 6-speed manual. It was the smoothest transmission I've ever driven. A friend of mine - a well respected Porsche mechanic and gearbox specialist - test drove my car and was blown away by how good the transmission was. I sold the car a few years ago, but I still think about that gearbox... The Cayman R was a phenomenal car, and particularly lustworthy in Peridot Green. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted October 12, 2022 Share #635 Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Danner said: Df had the D4 sensor and processor. Yes, you're correct. Memory failure on my part! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 12, 2022 Share #636 Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, logan2z said: I had a Cayman R with the 6-speed manual. It was the smoothest transmission I've ever driven. A friend of mine - a well respected Porsche mechanic and gearbox specialist - test drove my car and was blown away by how good the transmission was. I sold the car a few years ago, but I still think about that gearbox... That was the one! Insane manual transmission! Not just smooth, but so positive it felt like working the bolt action on a rifle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 12, 2022 Share #637 Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Sunyforreal said: Rad. I’ve had a few S2000s in my past, I love me a good roadster. Been actually playing with the idea of getting a NC2 Miata Club and doing the BBR super 225 kit. Something about ITBs just make me feel warm and fuzzy inside. The Cayman R was a phenomenal car, and particularly lustworthy in Peridot Green. S2000 is so sweet. But impossible to find a low mileage one that is not crazy expensive. I recently sold a Voigtlander 15mm optical finder to a young dude with a Leica M9. His ride was a Fiat Spyder Abarth. Funny how many Leica users also have basic elemental cars! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphonse2501 Posted October 12, 2022 Share #638 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Summilux 35mm f/1.4 V1 “Steel Rim” will reissues with the new M6 Leica Rumor link That's interesting. I just studied about M8/M9 and M240 have compatible issue with Summilux 35mm f/1.4 v1 and v2 due baffle on rear can hits the camera chamber. Although M240 supposed solved this issue but the warning statement stills noted on instruction manual. Edited October 12, 2022 by alphonse2501 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted October 12, 2022 Share #639 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Here's my half-caf, no foam latte edition CRV in appliance white with the sunglass holder that has a curved mirror so you can watch the little tykes in the back seat annoying one another. We owned it for six months, then put thirty eight hundred miles on it traversing the United States. Eight years later, its still paid for and still runs great. Just returned from a thousand mile costal trip. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2, 21 Voigtlander Color Skopar LTM, Portra 160 Edited October 12, 2022 by madNbad 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2, 21 Voigtlander Color Skopar LTM, Portra 160 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/336216-new-leica-m6-film-camera/?do=findComment&comment=4530800'>More sharing options...
M9reno Posted October 12, 2022 Share #640 Posted October 12, 2022 12 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: I was thing of something similar : maybe they want to gauge the market reaction to a film camera with the M10 type rangefinder mechanism. 12 hours ago, oldwino said: Leica has the opportunity to upgrade the M film camera, which would be a good thing, possibly (or probably) discontinuing both the MP and M-A in favor of a new model. That may still happen... But this limited M6 re-hash is just Leica's typical cash-flow generator. They can't bring the same camera (M6) into "regular production" as it would instantly devalue the first 500. They have done all of this before with the MP, series production of which was preceded by a "test-run" of ca. 250 cameras that they called MP6. https://jerrybei.com/reviews/tag/Leica+MP6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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