Q3 wish

[Bazookajoe]

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Ideally, for me, the lens would be 24mm -my all time favorite perspective- but the reality of it is, I'm good with the 28mm.

Watch out for what you wish for, with regards to flip screens; you might end up with one of those flappy screens!

As is, the Q2 is a near perfect machine. 

btw, for those interested in a flippy screen, you do know that live view shooting with the app works great, right? I've used it for shooting at ground level, and over the head shots, as well as selfies with the wife! Not the same as a flip screen, I know, but it can really broaden your possibilities.

[Simone_DF]

14 hours ago, Bazookajoe said:

you do know that live view shooting with the app works great, right? 

Yeah, it's perfect to capture the moment. Take out your phone, unlock it with one hand, because you're holding the Q in the other, then launch the app, pray it connects on the first go (about 45-60 seconds usually), then shot. The perfect Leica ethos. /s

[Stuart Richardson]

15 hours ago, Bazookajoe said:

Ideally, for me, the lens would be 24mm -my all time favorite perspective- but the reality of it is, I'm good with the 28mm.

 

You're in luck, as the 28mm in the Q2 is already wider than most 28mm lenses, more like a 25mm. Shooting it side by side with a Sigma 24mm on the SL2, the field of view is only very slightly wider on the SL2...

As for the Q3, I am not so convinced that they will use the M11's 60mp sensor. Historically, the Q has used sensors from the SL line of cameras, not the M. I asked a Leica manager about this, and he said that the M and S lines shared sensor technology and were more geared towards single frame capture and not having the sensor "always awake"...that is always on. Because they were less often used for video or full time live view (though possible in the S007 and S3), they had different heat characteristics and other differences in their innards. The SL and Q cameras are designed as EVF sensors that require the sensor to be continuously operating the entire time that they are in operation, which requires a different kind of sensor technology. Please note that I am not stating this myself, this is just what the manager said, and it was someone who was in a position to know. I could be misconstruing what he said, or it could no longer be valid now, as it was when I asked (before the M11, but after the SL2).

So my guess is that whatever sensor the Q3 has will be the sensor used in the SL3, not necessarily that used in the M11. Personally, I would much prefer a Q3 around 40mm, and I think there is a usage case for it, as Ricoh introduced the GRIIIx and I think it has been very popular. Similarly, Leica has a long history of making excellent 40mm lenses for their compact cameras, as they did in the 40mm Summicron in the CL and the 40mm Summarit lenses in the Minilux and CM. That said, it seems like Leica's current philosophy is to tell photographers to "just crop", and use wider lenses with higher resolution sensors. This does work in some cases, but I think it underestimates photographers' desires to have the focal length that they vibe with as the full frame. I have the Q2 and I love the camera and ergonomics, but I use the camera a lot less than I would like as it is just too wide for most of my use here in Iceland. It is more useful on trips to places that are denser (cities, places with a lot of forests). Meanwhile, I use the GRIIIx almost every day. 

I think that if Leica offered the Q3 in two versions, a 28mm and a 40 or 50mm, they will please a lot of customers and may even wind up selling more cameras to the kind of photographers who are able and willing to buy two expensive cameras. There are probably other reasons they will not do this, however, like not wanting to eat too much out of the M and SL lens/body sales.

 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Stuart Richardson

[mrt_r]

I have a q2 and find 47mp is enough but 60 would be nice - m11 (Sony made) sensor with more maleable raw files and best in class dynamic range is something I would love. 60 mp would help cropping to my favourite focal length of 35 (and perhaps as a bonus 50mm too) and would make it the perfect 28/35mm walkaround combo for me.

I would like leica to change to a dpaf or hybrid focus system with better face/eye tracking. All I would love to see the ability to only see the crop while shooting not just the frame lines. But as an option, I would like to be able to choose to hide the cropped area in the eve and lcd. or maybe have the option for a 50% black overlay instead of the white frame.

Please do keep the full raw file output though, that's just one of my favourite options of the q2. Shoot with a crop and still have extra wiggle room in post.

Otherwise the camera is great already. above would mean a sure upgrade for me. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by mrt_r

[viramati]

Top of the list is Phase detect (hybrid) AF to match the performance of my Sony A1 giving tracking and accurate eye AF 

Better high iso performance 

lossless compressed RAW files

articulating screen would be nice

extra programmable fn button where the record button used to be on the Q

Better battery life

USB C port for charging on the go

Don't need more MP's unless there was the option for also have smaller Raw files

 

[viramati]

I would add one of the most annoying things for composition is the overlay of shooting info when using the LCD I know you can temporarily turn it off but as soon as you half press the shutter it reappears. I would much prefer a smaller image but to see the whole frame

 

[Overland]

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I would like to see automatic focus bracketing for the Q3. Or even better: focus bracketing via update for the Q2 and Q2M.

[Tribbiani]

If anyone at Leica speaks Spanish they will probably suggest to not to use “Q3” (cutres). It would translate as “Leica Tacky” or “Leica Seedy” for a lot of people.

[SirBlunder]

On 7/23/2022 at 6:27 AM, viramati said:

Top of the list is Phase detect (hybrid) AF to match the performance of my Sony A1 giving tracking and accurate eye AF 

Better high iso performance 

lossless compressed RAW files

articulating screen would be nice

extra programmable fn button where the record button used to be on the Q

Better battery life

USB C port for charging on the go

Don't need more MP's unless there was the option for also have smaller Raw files

 

I would LOVE a lossless compressed RAW file option. These 80-90 mb files can be a pain. 

Think they can add this feature via an update? 

[viramati]

16 hours ago, SirBlunder said:

I would LOVE a lossless compressed RAW file option. These 80-90 mb files can be a pain. 

Think they can add this feature via an update? 

If you use lightroom you can easily downsize the files by nearly a third by just updating the  'Preview and metadata' for all the Leica Q2 DNG files

[SirBlunder]

2 hours ago, viramati said:

If you use lightroom you can easily downsize the files by nearly a third by just updating the  'Preview and metadata' for all the Leica Q2 DNG files

Interesting, wasn't aware of that. But what does that accomplish exactly? 

My concern is really the time it takes to upload the files, back them up, that the DNG files themselves fill up external HDs faster, etc. 

[SrMi]

52 minutes ago, SirBlunder said:

Interesting, wasn't aware of that. But what does that accomplish exactly? 

My concern is really the time it takes to upload the files, back them up, that the DNG files themselves fill up external HDs faster, etc. 

It applies lossless compression in place.

[T25UFO]

On 8/2/2022 at 9:51 AM, Tribbiani said:

If anyone at Leica speaks Spanish they will probably suggest to not to use “Q3” (cutres). It would translate as “Leica Tacky” or “Leica Seedy” for a lot of people.

Ha ha.  A bit like when Toyota launched the MR2 in France.  M R DEUX or literally pronounced ‘merde’.

[Wolfs head]

Or when Vauxhall (the British car maker) introduced the Nova (no va - to the intense amusement of Spanish speakers…)

[Le Chef]

1 hour ago, Wolfs head said:

Or when Vauxhall (the British car maker) introduced the Nova (no va - to the intense amusement of Spanish speakers…)

Or the Mitsubishi Pajero which in Argentinian slang Spanish means 'He who fiddles with himself for sexual gratification'. 

Or the Rolls Royce Silver Mist (stopped just before the badges were applied) means Silver $hit in German.

These days company make millions naming brands and doing all the due diligence to make sure these kind of embarrassments never happen.

[thedwp]

On 7/15/2022 at 4:39 AM, Viv said:

My wish is that the launch of the Q3 be delayed as long as possible, ideally for years.

Why? Because, as we all know, Leica will remotely disable all Q2 cameras, including mine, on the day of the launch.

My wife thinks I should write the company and even take to social media to shame Leica for this practice. I assure her I have many times, and it does no good.

[ynp]

On 7/22/2022 at 3:36 PM, Stuart Richardson said:

I think that if Leica offered the Q3 in two versions, a 28mm and a 40 or 50mm, they will please a lot of customers and may even wind up selling more cameras to the kind of photographers who are able and willing to buy two expensive cameras.

A 50 mm Q3 with a central shutter will kill my desire to own  a Hasselblad X camera. It will be an ultimate portrait camera for working outside.  

[Cayenne]

On 7/15/2022 at 12:34 AM, clasami said:

KInd of acquired a taste for 28mm. 60MP with the 28mm would be my preferred option to make better use of the 75mm crop option. If the next sensor is 60MP at all. Higher MPs do come with limitations.

I'd like 60MP...with IBIS and BSI sensor....

I'd be cool with the 28mm with macro function currently...but I could definitely see a market for offering a choice in 28mm or 35mm....

 

cayenne

[Qwertynm]

with 60MP, even 47, you can crop to a 35mm FOV and still retain enough pixels for most applications. There likely won't be another FL as the 28 just works

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Hallo,

Look here: Leica Q

[40mm f/2]

From all the Leicas I had I only kept the Q but when the Q2 came out I decided to get a Hasselblad 907X with the 45P lens. My first Leica was the CL (original = film!) and I got imprinted on 40mm/90mm. 28mm lens is now just like standard cell phone camera view  so my Q gets largely neglected. I would be interested in a Q3 only if it would give me focal length of more than 35mm, idealy 75 mm (the 75/1.4 was my favorite lens for my Ms) with a decent close focus range.