pgk Posted May 23, 2022 Share #21 Posted May 23, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, labyrinth said: I do hardware design for drones and electronics repair as a hobby so if my m6ttl fails I will fix the board or try to redesign it with available components. So are you going to arket a replacement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share #22 Posted May 23, 2022 If Leica could hide the battery of the MP somewhere under the base plate, they would easily sell for twice the present prices (black paint only of cause). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 23, 2022 Share #23 Posted May 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Apochromat said: If Leica could hide the battery of the MP somewhere under the base plate, they would easily sell for twice the present prices (black paint only of cause). What are you smoking right now, I want some? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted May 23, 2022 Share #24 Posted May 23, 2022 I wish somebody could build a new mainboard for my now boat anchor, $12k when new in 2004, Imacon 646. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share #25 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) vor 38 Minuten schrieb 250swb: What are you smoking right now, I want some? Smoke whatever you like, I don’t. I find it interesting, that one camera costing 10x more than an another model, which uses the same lenses and is perfectly suited to take the same photos, stops short of costing 20x as much, when minor design changes could make it look like models from the days of old. Camera connaisseurs follow watch collectors and wine experts and observe carefully price decisions in these fields. Could I please kindly ask you to excuse me for ending the conversation with you, that you start with an insult? Edited May 23, 2022 by Apochromat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted May 23, 2022 Share #26 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Apochromat said: If Leica could hide the battery of the MP somewhere under the base plate, they would easily sell for twice the present prices (black paint only of cause). I don't think the design change you're suggesting would warrant a 2x increase in MP prices, but I do agree that putting that 'wart' on the front of the camera did spoil some of its design elegance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted May 23, 2022 Share #27 Posted May 23, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) My M6 is from 1966. To think its electronics could have been repaired till now is pretty amazing. If mine fails I'll continue to use it with no meter and no complaints. It's wonderful with and without. John 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted May 23, 2022 Share #28 Posted May 23, 2022 Well let's see, my situation is an M2, M4-P, M6, and M7. I use Leica MR-4 meters on the M2, and M4-P. These are my favorite cameras, so I figure the M6 and M7 should last considering the low usage. In any case, I don't worry about circuit board failure, and the specter of non-repairability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share #29 Posted May 23, 2022 vor 13 Minuten schrieb logan2z: I don't think the design change you're suggesting would warrant a 2x increase in MP prices, but I do agree that putting that 'wart' on the front of the camera did spoil some of its design elegance. Add an M2 frame counter and a limited series of 0.58 and 0.85 viewfinders (which could follow demand, like the 1.4/50 Asph Vers. 2) … Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 23, 2022 Share #30 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Apochromat said: Smoke whatever you like, I don’t. I find it interesting, that one camera costing 10x more than an another model, which uses the same lenses and is perfectly suited to take the same photos, stops short of costing 20x as much, when minor design changes could make it look like models from the days of old. Camera connaisseurs follow watch collectors and wine experts and observe carefully price decisions in these fields. Could I please kindly ask you to excuse me for ending the conversation with you, that you start with an insult? Why does hiding the battery in the baseplate equate to a doubling of the value? Unless you only fondle your camera. But putting the battery in the baseplate of a film M would be a nightmare with all the extra light seals necessary to change the battery if you were halfway through a film! Have you even half thought through what you just said? Edited May 23, 2022 by 250swb 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 23, 2022 Share #31 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, 250swb said: But putting the battery in the baseplate of a film M would be a nightmare with all the extra light seals necessary to change the battery if you were halfway through a film! Have you even half thought through what you just said? Yes, one of the most bizarre ideas I've read in this forum. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share #32 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) vor 11 Minuten schrieb wattsy: Yes, one of the most bizarre ideas I've read in this forum. What is of no interest for you does not have to be bizarre. There were many posts using your word of choice for a red Summicron 50mm Apo. Leica owners differ. Edited May 23, 2022 by Apochromat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2022 Share #33 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) “What camera is this?” post #11. 4 hours ago. Edited May 23, 2022 by Apochromat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted May 23, 2022 Share #34 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, johnwolf said: My M6 is from 1966. To think its electronics could have been repaired till now is pretty amazing. If mine fails I'll continue to use it with no meter and no complaints. It's wonderful with and without. John I'd guess you mean 1986! 1n 1966 the M3 & M2 were still in production, and the M4 was still a year away. M6 began in 1984. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Siqueira Posted May 23, 2022 Share #35 Posted May 23, 2022 Did someone heard something from Leica itself? Last year I send them a e-mail and they just said that they can repair the M6 classic. I have a M6 TTL ( wich can't be repaired) but I guess thay don't have a problem with the classic model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted May 24, 2022 Share #36 Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Alan Siqueira said: Did someone heard something from Leica itself? Last year I send them a e-mail and they just said that they can repair the M6 classic. I have a M6 TTL ( wich can't be repaired) but I guess thay don't have a problem with the classic model. No, but two of the most respected independent Leica technicians, Don Goldberg in the US and Alan Starkie in the UK, have stated that the M6 Classic main circuit board is now no longer available (from 2022). But we all seem to have missed a key comment in Alan Starkie's announcement, which I've only just read: 'When we couldn't get hold of rangefinder prism components, we decided to buy into high vacuum technology so that we could fix them ourselves. This will eventually lead us to remanufacturing entire M3 prisms. When we couldn't get brightline masks, we reverse engineered them and made our own. You can't complain really. The first M6 was 1984 and circuit boards have only just become unavailable. That's nearly 40 years but these cameras have at least another 40 years life in them. For that reason I fully intend to redesign the metering and produce replacement circuit boards. I will make an announcement when the time comes. For the time being we will continue in our efforts to repair them.' https://www.cameraworks-uk.com/post/is-your-leica-m6-slowly-becoming-an-m4-p-no-more-light-meter-pcb-s Edited May 24, 2022 by Anbaric 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2022 Share #37 Posted May 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, Alan Siqueira said: Did someone heard something from Leica itself? Last year I send them a e-mail and they just said that they can repair the M6 classic. I have a M6 TTL ( wich can't be repaired) but I guess thay don't have a problem with the classic model. DAG did (see the first post in this thread). Certainly a reliable source regarding Leica repair. And yes, last year there was no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted May 24, 2022 Share #38 Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Anbaric said: No, but two of the most respected independent Leica technicians, Don Goldberg in the US and Alan Starkie in the UK, have stated that the M6 Classic main circuit board is now no longer available (from 2022). But we all seem to have missed a key comment in Alan Starkie's announcement, which I've only just read: 'When we couldn't get hold of rangefinder prism components, we decided to buy into high vacuum technology so that we could fix them ourselves. This will eventually lead us to remanufacturing entire M3 prisms. When we couldn't get brightline masks, we reverse engineered them and made our own. You can't complain really. The first M6 was 1984 and circuit boards have only just become unavailable. That's nearly 40 years but these cameras have at least another 40 years life in them. For that reason I fully intend to redesign the metering and produce replacement circuit boards. I will make an announcement when the time comes. For the time being we will continue in our efforts to repair them.' https://www.cameraworks-uk.com/post/is-your-leica-m6-slowly-becoming-an-m4-p-no-more-light-meter-pcb-s And before anyone asks, it looks like he may also be interested in doing this for the TTL: 'My approach is this, re-design the whole thing and remanufacture them. I'm already working on this. I might also think about the TTL version too and include adjustment pots like the M6, avoiding the need to hook the camera up to a Leica computer just for adjustment.' https://www.rangefinderforum.com/node/4782210?p=4785021#post4785021 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted May 24, 2022 Share #39 Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, TomB_tx said: I'd guess you mean 1986! 1n 1966 the M3 & M2 were still in production, and the M4 was still a year away. M6 began in 1984. Yes, typo. Thanks for the correction. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted May 24, 2022 Share #40 Posted May 24, 2022 Don’t show this thread to the hipsters on YouTube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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