Al404 Posted February 2, 2022 Share #1 Posted February 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got a mount issue with my 28mm bought this summer that I discover few days ago because I never tested on a Leica M camera before, they need to change the mount and the lens from Italy has to go to Germany and then to Japan and back... all this require 2/3 months on a new lens. Since I also ask for a paid service at a really experience shop and they suggest me to go with official assistance because if they need a spare they can't have it I now questioning my self on my lens Just got a new VM 35mm f1.4 Nokton MC II and I'm still in return window, I would like to know what other option I can have in new and used makes under 1000€ for a compact lens I guess the Zeiss 35mm f2 may be the closest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RexGig0 Posted February 2, 2022 Share #2 Posted February 2, 2022 The Zeiss 35mm f/2 is a very well-regarded lens. Notably, all but one of the currently-produced Zeiss ZM lenses are manufactured by by Cosina, in Japan. Currently-made Voigtlander lenses are also made by Cosina, in Japan. Cosina usually does very good work. Nobody is perfect. I had a prior relationship with Zeiss and Voigtlander DSLR lenses, before I added the Leica M system, almost four years ago. I have Leica, Zeiss ZM, and Voigtlander VM lenses. I have no actual, personal experience with the Zeiss 35mm f/2 lens, as I opted for the Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 2, 2022 Share #3 Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Bed experience with a Voigtlander... Oh dear, what happened? 🤔 The Nokton you already have is a unique lens, a keeper w/o doubt! If you want to add one of the best 35 out there, a super performer and a very few cons, the Zeiss 38/2.8 ZM. Sometimes it is so good that it could be boring... It's about $1k for a brand new one. Two very different lenses with different purposes. They also share the same 43mm filter thread, it's an advantage. Edited February 2, 2022 by Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted February 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dennis said: Bed experience with a Voigtlander... Oh dear, what happened? 🤔 It does have an issue on the mount that I did not notice adapting the lens on a Nikon Z7 but it is noticeable on Leica M since it struggles to fit the only way to have it repair is that they send it back to Japan via Germany so about 2/3 months 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Posted February 2, 2022 Share #5 Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Al404 said: It does have an issue on the mount that I did not notice adapting the lens on a Nikon Z7 but it is noticeable on Leica M since it struggles to fit the only way to have it repair is that they send it back to Japan via Germany so about 2/3 months I was joking about "bed experience" vs "bad experience" Maybe you wanted to say bad, but you finally went to bed with a Voigtlander 🤔 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted February 2, 2022 Share #6 Posted February 2, 2022 I'm not quite following... he has bad experience with a 28mm (VM?) and presuming the new 35mm also have issues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 2, 2022 Share #7 Posted February 2, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 35 1.4 v2 Voigtlander that I have is superb. I also have the Zeiss ZM 35 1.4, and the Lux FLE 35 1.4, so it is not a case of not being able to get 'better' lenses. What is the issue that you have with yours? Here are selfie pics in a mirror taken with all three to compare. All three look great. What is also really nice about the Voigtlander is it is tiny. https://www.flickr.com/gp/39133227@N08/0QY72e https://www.flickr.com/gp/39133227@N08/9VZ0Vf https://www.flickr.com/gp/39133227@N08/K0KiJ6 The one place that I do notice where the Voigtlander is worse is a night at 1.4, where out of focus lights in the background to the side are distorted. With the Leica and the Zeiss they are much 'cleaner'. I think the term is coma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted February 2, 2022 51 minutes ago, jaeger said: I'm not quite following... he has bad experience with a 28mm (VM?) and presuming the new 35mm also have issues? I'm in EU and never thought that with a white market lens needs to get back to Japan to get serviced, Voiglander doesn't have any service center in EU So if you have an issue with your lens the have to send it back to Japan and it takes about 2 to 3 months I just got a Nokton 35mm f1.4 v2 and I like it but at 1.4 it has occasionally some gusting that disappear at f1.7 Tomorrow I'm going to check out with Zeiss if they service their lens in EU and I was evaluating to return Voigtlander and get a Zeiss 35mm f2 instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted February 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, Huss said: The 35 1.4 v2 Voigtlander that I have is superb. I also have the Zeiss ZM 35 1.4, and the Lux FLE 35 1.4, so it is not a case of not being able to get 'better' lenses. I can't see the aperture of your shots, do you ever get ghosting at f1.4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted February 2, 2022 Share #10 Posted February 2, 2022 The VM 35mm f1.4 Nokton MC II that you just got is a very fine lens. Are you happy with it, or, are you not happy with it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadsen Posted February 2, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 2, 2022 9 hours ago, RexGig0 said: Notably, all but one of the currently-produced Zeiss ZM lenses are manufactured by by Cosina, in Japan. I was under the impression (without really knowing) that all of the current Zeiss ZM lenses were made by Cosina. Which one isn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimelKrunch Posted February 3, 2022 Share #12 Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, armadsen said: I was under the impression (without really knowing) that all of the current Zeiss ZM lenses were made by Cosina. Which one isn't? The 35mm 1.4 zm, I believe is still made in germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2022 Share #13 Posted February 3, 2022 Regarding your "bed experience " with voigtlander i advise you sleep with leica lenses in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 3, 2022 Share #14 Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Al404 said: I can't see the aperture of your shots, do you ever get ghosting at f1.4? All the shots were at 1.4. Not sure what you mean by ghosting, but I have not noticed any optical issues. Edited February 3, 2022 by Huss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted February 3, 2022 Share #15 Posted February 3, 2022 3 hours ago, KarimelKrunch said: The 35mm 1.4 zm, I believe is still made in germany No, it is made in Japan by Cosina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: All the shots were at 1.4. Not sure what you mean by ghosting, but I have not noticed any optical issues. in some occasion I can see a glow, everything gets really soft at f1.4 I suspect that image is sharper only at closer distance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted February 3, 2022 Share #17 Posted February 3, 2022 I own the 35 and 50mm APO Lanthar VM lenses from Voigtländer and am very happy with these 2 glasses. MO, the image rendering is on pair with the Leica APO‘s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted February 3, 2022 Share #18 Posted February 3, 2022 I have both the Nokton 35 II and the Zeiss 35 f2.0. My Zeiss did need to be serviced to correct focus when new, so there can be issues with any brand. After service the Zeiss gives very nice images, but I don’t like the larger size. I prefer the Nokton, and use it on film and on my M9 where it’s speed is handy in low light. My M10 normally uses a Summarit 35 2.5 which combines small size with excellent images and handling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted February 3, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 3, 2022 Summarit 35/2.5 is a very good lens as well. Just use it witout hood , it is very flare resistant, nice bokeh, small, ok price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) The problem is not to have an issue on the lens, it service time Just did a quick test, this 100% crop is on the side ( not corner ) taken with 35mm f1.4 Nokton II As you can see it has some sort of glow wide open, I did read before buying but if you see different shot side by side gets really noticeable - you can read aperture speed in file name ( before .DNG ) shoot on M 240 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 3, 2022 by Al404 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329395-advice-for-35mm-after-a-bed-experience-with-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=4375547'>More sharing options...
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