SL3 with M11 sensor?

[Simone_DF]

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4 minutes ago, ravinj said:

They play a LOT better on the SL2 than any Sony camera. 35 FLE has identical performance on SL2 and the M. 

With your logic the Sony A7RIV is a native M camera with minor optimizations for E mount lenses. 

We can also argue that you can select M lens profile on the SL2 that you can't do on the Sony and Nikon. 

I don't have my M10 anymore, but to me my Summilux ASPH looked slightly worse wide open in the corners on my SL2 compared to my M10. But indeed MUCH better than on a Sony.

Sony has a surprising high number of rangefinder lenses in native Sony mount and optimized for its sensor. Some of them are even exclusive, like the 65 and 110 APO https://www.voigtlaender.de/lenses/e-mount/?lang=en 

I wish we could get the 110 in L mount 

Yup, the lens profile is nice to have. With the Techart you can tell the camera which focal lenght you're using, and exif data will reflect that, but of course no lens correction will be applied. Both system have their strenght, there's no better or worse, in my opinion. You can also go the extreme route and get a Kolari mod to enhance M performance on your camera.

 

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[AKorenc]

On 6/2/2022 at 3:11 AM, Jim B said:

I do not think these SL camera’s will ever come close to Sony’s auto focus. The A1 is incredible, and it doesn’t miss. I do not believe Leica has the technology, and the SL lenses do not focus that fast. They will always be years in the past for performance. 

The "technology" is there for all the manufacturers to purchase and employ in their products/cameras. It was not developed by Sony.
These scene/face/eye/subject recognition patterns and algorithms are developed by other specialized companies, not camera manufacturers, e.g. Leica, Sony, Nikon ... Sony was just the 1st manufacturers to license/purchase this data and implemented it in their processors, followed by Nikon and Canon. For Leica, Panasonic, Fujifilm ... it's just a matter of their product development strategy or making a decision to also use it.
But hey, DFD is developed in-house by Panasonic, is as such cheap for Leica to use, and first needs to pay for it's development. When that goal is reached, have no doubt all manufacturers currently using it will ditch CDAF/DFD in a heartbeat and jump on a PDAF train. All we users can do is pray for that to happen ASAP.

[BernardC]

2 hours ago, AKorenc said:

When that goal is reached, have no doubt all manufacturers currently using it will ditch CDAF/DFD in a heartbeat and jump on a PDAF train.

PDAF will lose-out in the long term, because it takes-up a lot of sensor real estate. It is, however, the best tech commercially available right now for AF tracking.

I'm not sure that Leica should jump on any train at this point, even a slow-moving one. As we've discussed many times before, anyone who shoots sports for a living already uses Canon or Nikon (unless their press syndicate signed an exclusive arrangement with Sony).

As with all mature technology, performance differences are converging. The next step appears to be ToF sensors, and Leica is at the forefront of that particular technology.

[ynp]

20 minutes ago, BernardC said:

The next step appears to be ToF sensors, and Leica is at the forefront of that particular technology.

This and computational photography algorithms will make a fixed lens camera, like the Q, a Leica for everybody. Well off, of course. 😉