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Just loving this lens.   Here are some more using it on the M7 w Kentmere 400 & DF96

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I bought a Voigtlander 25mm Snapshot Skopar, which seems to have filled any need I seem to have had for a tiny, cheap lens in the mid-twenties focal length range. I later added a well-preserved, pre-owned Summaron, Leica Threaded Mount. So, I am not a candidate for owning the TTArtisan 28mm lens, no matter how inexpensive. (I also have 28mm Elmarit-R and Elmarit-M Version III lenses, but they are notably larger, and so not really on-topic.)

If something were to destroy or otherwise deprive me of all of my 28mm M-mount lenses, I believe that I would simply buy a Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II VM, and be done with it, as the Ultron II is compact enough, and so optically good, that it seems to be a better value. $300 may seem inexpensive, but I would rather pay $900 US for the Ultron II. (I have never used a 28mm Ultron II, but have some other Cosina Voigtlander lense, for reference.)

I tend to fumble Summaron-sized lenses; a lens can be TOO compact, especially for my clumsy self.

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6 hours ago, RexGig0 said:

I bought a Voigtlander 25mm Snapshot Skopar, which seems to have filled any need I seem to have had for a tiny, cheap lens in the mid-twenties focal length range. I later added a well-preserved, pre-owned Summaron, Leica Threaded Mount. So, I am not a candidate for owning the TTArtisan 28mm lens, no matter how inexpensive. (I also have 28mm Elmarit-R and Elmarit-M Version III lenses, but they are notably larger, and so not really on-topic.)

If something were to destroy or otherwise deprive me of all of my 28mm M-mount lenses, I believe that I would simply buy a Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II VM, and be done with it, as the Ultron II is compact enough, and so optically good, that it seems to be a better value. $300 may seem inexpensive, but I would rather pay $900 US for the Ultron II. (I have never used a 28mm Ultron II, but have some other Cosina Voigtlander lense, for reference.)

I tend to fumble Summaron-sized lenses; a lens can be TOO compact, especially for my clumsy self.

I also have the Snapshot Skopar, and the rf coupled version of it.  Super lenses.  And the Summicron 28 Asph v2.  I am not ashamed to say what drew me to the TTA 28 was the black paint finish.  I just love the design.  The fact that it also works so well is a thankful bonus!

If I was pragmatic/sensible etc, I only need one 28 (I forgot to mention I also have the CV 28 3.5 - another super lens).  But I do think the 25 is significantly wider than the 28, so for me the two do not create redundancy.  All you need to do it take a pic w the 25, then one w the 28 and compare.

Anyway, if I only could have one 28, it would be the Asph v2.  The CV Ultron v2 by all accounts is excellent but I really dislike its looks.  Others love it, so it's just how we are.

My one and only 28 would not be the TTA just because its max aperture setting is too small.

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7 hours ago, Huss said:

...My one and only 28 would not be the TTA just because its max aperture setting is too small...

At the start of this week I had to select a few lenses to bring with me on holiday and for the 28mm spot it came down to either the TTA or the Elmarit asph. I chose the latter primarily because the f5.6 might be slightly problematic if I found myself in an 'low-light indoors' situation. It's a pity because for outdoor snaping, which I expect will account for c. 95% of my photo's, it would have been a wonderful option.

Philip.

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On 7/16/2022 at 5:23 PM, jakontil said:
On 7/16/2022 at 3:43 PM, Matlock said:

 

Yeah hard to say, everything comes down to the budget, and some people might actually think that 20% alone justify the price difference

Same to why we shoot Leica. You may say the same about a Fuji. It’s got the fully manual controls and analog dials and gets you the shot. Costs a fraction of the price of a Leica. So why don’t we all just shoot Fuji? 

Some people actually think the differences are worth the extra $7,000. 

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55 minutes ago, Cthulhu said:

Same to why we shoot Leica. You may say the same about a Fuji. It’s got the fully manual controls and analog dials and gets you the shot. Costs a fraction of the price of a Leica. So why don’t we all just shoot Fuji? 

Some people actually think the differences are worth the extra $7,000. 

I would point out that the post you are quoting is from jakontil not me.

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with an M10

f8 and be there...

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1 hour ago, Huss said:

Very nice!  How did you convert it to B&W?

Thank you! The light was already very playful to work with, I didn't do it very much. I applied a personal BW preset I usually use for the Q2M, w/ LrC. No color channels changed.

I hope this answer your question.

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5 hours ago, Dennis said:

Thank you! The light was already very playful to work with, I didn't do it very much. I applied a personal BW preset I usually use for the Q2M, w/ LrC. No color channels changed.

I hope this answer your question.

Thanks!  Very dramatic!

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Leica MP, TTA 28mm 5.6 Black paint, Kodak E100VS

 

 

 

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Leica MP, TTA 28mm 5.6 BP, Kodak E100VS

 

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Leica MP, TTA 28mm 5.6 BP, Kodak E100VS

 

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Nothing wrong with this lens

M240 + TTartisan 28mm/f5.6

Taken at f5.6

 

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And for comparison

M240 + 28mm/f2 Summicron

Also taken at f5.6

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So, what’s the consensus on flaring?

I’m shooting film exclusively, m3+elmarit asph v1 28mm. Basically only on the streets, scale/zone focusing (half the time I don’t even throw on the VF). Rarely below 5.6 on it, because I need the depth of field. I’m planning to get a flash so I can keep DOF in lower light, anyways. 

I also shoot solely on tri-x with Diafine for the speed boost, so I’m not going for any ultra-fine grain results. I wouldn’t mind a little more character/soft edges/distortion in the lens, especially given how small the TTA is.

The elmarit has been great so far, but I just picked one of the TTA up to see if I can free up some camera bucks for MF gear by selling it…

my only concern is if the flare will be too ridiculous with the sun out. I got a newer black painted version where even the internals are painted black, which should theoretically cut down on flaring? 

I think I read somewhere that the flaring was partially attributable to the reflective silver body versions and reflective internal components within the body? And is it much different on film vs digital?

I guess I’ll find out myself, but it would be nice to be able to use some cheaper glass with a smaller front element anyhow, sometimes I get nervous with the elmarit!!!  Ideally I’d get a summaron, but that can be down the road…

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5 hours ago, Luke_ZZZZ said:

So, what’s the consensus on flaring?......I’m shooting film exclusively, m3+elmarit asph v1 28mm......I’m not going for any ultra-fine grain results. I wouldn’t mind a little more character/soft edges/distortion in the lens......The elmarit has been great so far, but I just picked one of the TTA up to see if I can free up some camera bucks for MF gear by selling it…

I'm guessing that you haven't waded through nigh-on 500 posts in this thread - and I don't blame you for that for one second - but there IS no consensus on how the TTA behaves with regard to Flare. Most of the issues were experienced by owners of early examples (there are a few 'outliers') so perhaps the optical design was modified for the full-on production lenses. There is some circumstantial evidence - as noted elsewhere - to back-up this claim. Also many of the 'flare' problems were when the TTA was being used without a hood.

OTOH (and as posted somewhere early on in the thread) I deliberately set out to incur flare a few times and failed, comprehensibly, to do so. As such, IMX, the issue of flare is either a non-starter or a problem encountered by photographers whose 'artistic sensibilities' do not align with my own habits.

YMMV.

I have a fairly early TTA as well as a v1 ASPH Elmarit. I love my Elmarit to bits and it is, by far, my most-used 28mm lens but, in all honesty, on a digital body the TTA performs just as well as the Elmarit. Even at f5.6 the TTA is amazingly good in the corners and edge-of-frame. By f8? It is fantastic. When used with a film camera? You are NOT going to get "character/soft-edges/distortion". It might look like a recreation of a 1950's lens but in terms of its optical design (IMX) it is as modern as any lens from any manufacturer you care to imagine. Do NOT think of the TTA as a budget-price "Summaron Wannabe"; in terms of its rendering it is a VERY different animal.

I trust you have fun with yours when it arrives.

Philip.

 

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7 hours ago, Luke_ZZZZ said:

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The elmarit has been great so far, but I just picked one of the TTA up...

Wait, what? You bought this lens and instead of simply trying it out, you're here asking us? With all due respect, WTF? 🤷‍♂️😂

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@pippythank you for the response! I looked through quite a bit of and this thread and other sources and it did feel inconsistent, so nice to know I’m not crazy haha. I guess sometimes It just might depend on the copy you get, I’ll have to see! 
 

@hdmesaobviously going to form my own opinion but was just curious what to expect. Apologies if it was intrusive

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