Al404 Posted September 16, 2021 Share #1 Â Posted September 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm really getting into modern Voigtlander lens, I already have 15mm f4.5 III, 28mm f2 II, 40mm f1.4 and just add Minolta M-Rokkor 90mm f4 I use them on a Sony A7C, I'm still thinking about Leica M digital camera but price are very high I just discovered that there are some Canon LTM vintage lens but from what I saw online it seems too soft for my test on digital I was wondering if there are other sharp and special lens on a budget for M mount ( or L39 ) I'm picking mi lens with M mount since I can use on Sony with a really small adapter and I could use them on Leica M if I decide to pull the trigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Erato Posted September 16, 2021 Share #2  Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Al404 said: I'm really getting into modern Voigtlander lens, I already have 15mm f4.5 III, 28mm f2 II, 40mm f1.4 and just add Minolta M-Rokkor 90mm f4 I use them on a Sony A7C, I'm still thinking about Leica M digital camera but price are very high I just discovered that there are some Canon LTM vintage lens but from what I saw online it seems too soft for my test on digital I was wondering if there are other sharp and special lens on a budget for M mount ( or L39 ) I'm picking mi lens with M mount since I can use on Sony with a really small adapter and I could use them on Leica M if I decide to pull the trigger Perhaps Canon 50mm f1.8(LTM/M39) or M-Rokkor 40mm f/2(Leica M mount) fit your taste and it's relatively cost-effective. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhout Posted September 16, 2021 Share #3 Â Posted September 16, 2021 Looks like Voigtlander is serving you well! I would encourage you to have a look at Russian lenses. Some of them are frankly useless, others serve a (special) purpose. Â Â 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share #4 Â Posted September 16, 2021 I didn't know some Russian are also L39 mount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted September 16, 2021 Share #5 Â Posted September 16, 2021 If you like a classic look to your photos, some of the Canon, Nikon, and Tanar lenses (all LTM) have done a fine job for me, both on film and on my Sony A7, as well as my M4/3 Oly. Also, a really fine 50 is the Leica Elmar 50/3.5 red scale. Paying up the Voigtlanders give a more modern look and do a great job on both film and digital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share #6  Posted September 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, spydrxx said: If you like a classic look to your photos, some of the Canon, Nikon, and Tanar lenses (all LTM) have done a fine job for me, both on film and on my Sony A7, as well as my M4/3 Oly. Also, a really fine 50 is the Leica Elmar 50/3.5 red scale. Paying up the Voigtlanders give a more modern look and do a great job on both film and digital. it depends what you mean for "classic look" I like sharp image with harsh bokeh of the VM 40mm f1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   over the softer Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8 that looks to me "kind of boring"  1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   over the softer Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8 that looks to me "kind of boring"  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324582-best-budget-ltm-or-m-mount-lens-for-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4276210'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 16, 2021 Share #7 Â Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) One LTM lens is a must (even not adopting it later) ... created in the 1920's and having some changing in it's long span period of making from 1926 to 1962 ... happily (for me as I use some units coated or not), those stay great lenses even with modern digital last sensors. more than 365,000 units in the wild ! I don't know if the price is right, but the units I bought were very cheap (almost 'free' when buy with the boby). We can even have in M mount https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Elmar_(III)_f%3D_5_cm_1:3.5 or screw mount https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Elmar_(II)_f%3D_5_cm_1:3.5 https://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/Elmar_(I)_f%3D_5_cm_1:3.5 Â Edited September 16, 2021 by a.noctilux 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 16, 2021 Share #8  Posted September 16, 2021 For more infos, see Marco Cavina article http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/50mm_Leica_a_telemetro/00_pag.htm we can see these nice so different avatars of the same lens, fascinating  http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/50mm_Leica_a_telemetro/100_0n/139n.jpg http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/50mm_Leica_a_telemetro/100_0n/101n.jpg http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/50mm_Leica_a_telemetro/100_0n/101n.jpg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 16, 2021 Share #9 Â Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Al404 said: Â Â Â over the softer Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8 that looks to me "kind of boring" Â Â The cat doesn't look bored 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 16, 2021 Share #10  Posted September 16, 2021 If you like interesting Bokeh, look for a nice Summar 5cm f2 (the emphasis is nice - optically). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324582-best-budget-ltm-or-m-mount-lens-for-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4276337'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 16, 2021 Share #11  Posted September 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Al404 said:  I was wondering if there are other sharp and special lens on a budget for M mount ( or L39 )  It would help if we knew which focal length you are interested in? But as an example of something you don't already have what about the CV 21mm f/4 Color Skopar? It has been lens testing guru Sean Reid's go-to 21mm lens for many years, perhaps not the best 21mm lens in the world, but perhaps the best overall package for a walk-around lens day to day.   Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 16, 2021 Share #12  Posted September 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, 250swb said: It would help if we knew which focal length you are interested in? But as an example of something you don't already have what about the CV 21mm f/4 Color Skopar? It has been lens testing guru Sean Reid's go-to 21mm lens for many years, perhaps not the best 21mm lens in the world, but perhaps the best overall package for a walk-around lens day to day.   Doubtful on a stock Sony. Works fine for closeups on my Kolari mod A7r2 but otherwise corners are soft below f/8. I'd rather choose the current CV 21/3.5 but i never tried it on a stock Sony either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted September 16, 2021 Share #13  Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) +1 for the Summar suggestion.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Edited September 16, 2021 by ianman 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324582-best-budget-ltm-or-m-mount-lens-for-digital/?do=findComment&comment=4276372'>More sharing options...
Al404 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share #14  Posted September 16, 2021 I'm looking for a 50-60mm because for 21mm I will get a VM f3.5 or f1.8 did not decide yet CV 21mm f/4 Color Skopar is not good for digital camera, 21mm f3.5 is a good option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted September 16, 2021 Share #15  Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Al404 said: CV 21mm f/4 Color Skopar is not good for digital camera, 21mm f3.5 is a good option Could you explain why? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al404 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share #16 Â Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ianman said: Could you explain why? Because wide angle needs to be redesign for digital camera especially if used on a camera that has a thicker sensor than Leica, but as far as I know older VM 15mm do give purple vignetting on Leica M too VM 21mm f3.5 is newer and similar to Sony E 21mm f3.5Â Edited September 16, 2021 by Al404 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 16, 2021 Share #17 Â Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Al404 said: I didn't know some Russian are also L39 mount From the mid-'30s to the mid '50s there were many dozens of different lenses made (and made in their millions) in L39 mount for the various FED & Zorki (etc.) cameras of the day but bear in mind that these camera bodies did not share the same flange-mount to film-plane distance with Leica therefore these lenses may very well not perform well on a Leica Digital camera unless one uses Live-view / EVF. Shorter than 'Standard' lenses fare better than do longer ones but, again, do bear this in mind. I have a great many FSU(*) lenses but there is not one 50mm (or longer) which works accurately with an optical rangefinder. OTOH my L39 35mm f2.8 Jupiter 12 works perfectly. If you really wish to go down the FSU route with an optical r/f then these lenses can be shimmed to work with Leica bodies. As far as Canon LTM lenses are concerned I've no idea why the tests you have viewed held them in a poor light as IMX they are superb performers and as good in their own way as Leica lenses of a similar vintage. The 50mm f1.8 series (as has already been mentioned) are particularly fine lenses. As far as M-mount goes then Voigtlander - as you are already aware - make superb optics. Philip. * Former Soviet Union. Edited September 16, 2021 by pippy 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted September 13, 2022 Share #18  Posted September 13, 2022 On 9/16/2021 at 10:07 PM, earleygallery said: If you like interesting Bokeh, look for a nice Summar 5cm f2 (the emphasis is nice - optically). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Would the Summitar (which is a single coated redevelopment of the Summar) also qualify - I agree the background of the Summar has a sort of velvet look. I also saw it on some Summitar pictures. By the way, the Summar is very good on the new high res sensors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 13, 2022 Share #19 Â Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) On 9/17/2021 at 12:22 AM, Al404 said: Because wide angle needs to be redesign for digital camera especially if used on a camera that has a thicker sensor than Leica, but as far as I know older VM 15mm do give purple vignetting on Leica M too VM 21mm f3.5 is newer and similar to Sony E 21mm f3.5Â Perfectly true when you wrote this but the BSI sensor of the M11 is a game changer as far as M cameras are concerned. Purple vignetting with difficult lenses like S-A 21/3.4, VM 21/4 or VM 15/4.5 v2 is a thing of the past since the M11. The VM 21/3.5 remains a bit sharper than the VM 21/4Â at f/4 but it is less compact and has also more color fringing. Edited September 13, 2022 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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