OfeyKalakar Posted November 4, 2021 Share #41 Posted November 4, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 9/8/2021 at 2:51 PM, Datsch said: @humerc @benqui thanks for the serial numbers @fabior @egrossman thanks for that, another two new batches ... Here is the current list of M10-D Batch numbers, implying a total production run of 1400 units: 53265xx 53323xx 53324xx 53325xx 53326xx 53327xx 53332xx 54883xx 54885xx 54908xx 54911xx 54925xx 55003xx 55004xx Anyone who has an M10-D with a serial number not in those series then please do let us know about it ... 55014xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OfeyKalakar Posted November 4, 2021 Share #42 Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) On 9/14/2021 at 3:40 AM, Datsch said: @Steven is that net sales you're talking about? Call it 2000 units, at $/E/£7000 each retail. Half goes to the VAT and the retailer. That's 2000 * 7000 / 2 = 7million for Leica's production and marketing and profit. Sure margins may be low, they may be high, but let's say 10% net profit on 7m which is 700,000 Of course, there are pretty much fixed startup costs of introducing a new model -- R&D, design, testing, tooling, sourcing parts (eg rotary backplate ISO dials ...😄 ) So it's more like 'how many units before it starts to wash its face' and then after that you're churning them out with a decent profit per unit. We might get a clue from limited edition runs which we must presume are profitable ... they often have extremely small R&D and startup costs as changes are mostly cosmetic (eg sourcing a batch of different coloured leather, setting up the CNC machines for a different engraving, etc), plus they charge more for the product. So even a little change is expensive to make. The -D's have much harder stuff to produce -- new firmware, new backplate, new dials, so would need to be sold in more than limited edition numbers? I think the whole chasis is different from the other M10's. The only thing they can source from the bins are the genius thumb rests recycled from the M2's. That nickel Helier 50 f2 LTM was limited to only 600 units. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited November 4, 2021 by OfeyKalakar sp error 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324287-m10-d-production-numbers/?do=findComment&comment=4307089'>More sharing options...
fenykepesz Posted November 5, 2021 Share #43 Posted November 5, 2021 Am 8.9.2021 um 14:51 schrieb Datsch: @humerc @benqui thanks for the serial numbers @fabior @egrossman thanks for that, another two new batches ... Here is the current list of M10-D Batch numbers, implying a total production run of 1400 units: 53265xx 53323xx 53324xx 53325xx 53326xx 53327xx 53332xx 54883xx 54885xx 54908xx 54911xx 54925xx 55003xx 55004xx Anyone who has an M10-D with a serial number not in those series then please do let us know about it ... 55002xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted November 5, 2021 Share #44 Posted November 5, 2021 3 hours ago, fenykepesz said: 55002xx 55001xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted November 7, 2021 Share #45 Posted November 7, 2021 thinking of trading with someone my M10-P Reporter for a M10-D. I miss mine very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 25, 2021 Share #46 Posted December 25, 2021 So taking the latest numbers into consideration there are at least 21 confirmed batches. Interesting. Looking forward to any possible newcomers to the above! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimdev Posted December 25, 2021 Share #47 Posted December 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I found at least one M10-P on ebay with a similar serial number (5488592), so perhaps not all of the batches were solely assigned to M10-D's. My M10-D is 5488428 by the way, filling in the gap between 54883xx and 54885xx. Willem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeWilliam Posted January 16, 2022 Share #48 Posted January 16, 2022 5488476 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsch Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share #49 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) On 12/25/2021 at 7:29 PM, wimdev said: I found at least one M10-P on ebay with a similar serial number (5488592), so perhaps not all of the batches were solely assigned to M10-D's. My M10-D is 5488428 by the way, filling in the gap between 54883xx and 54885xx. Willem Thanks for the serial number, that now makes 27 batches or a theoretical 2700 units. And even more thanks for finding that 54884xx contains an M10-P! That really does question the idea that all batches are fully built out (ie 100 made per batch) and that they are exclusively one type of camera. The M10-P in question is/was for sale at Leica Lisse in Holland and is a Royal Selangor Pewter Edition. Perhaps Leica squeezed it in that batch as there were only ten of the Royal Selangors made? I've looked at 9 other M10-Ps today and so far none of them share an M10-D batch, but I will keep looking ... Enjoy your new -D! Edited January 17, 2022 by Datsch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmbmuc Posted January 21, 2022 Share #50 Posted January 21, 2022 5488497 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmoM3 Posted January 28, 2022 Share #51 Posted January 28, 2022 5500246 Checking In Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
criolf Posted January 29, 2022 Share #52 Posted January 29, 2022 Just seen 54909xx for sale in my area. I'm sticking to my M-D 262... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabbard Posted February 20, 2022 Share #53 Posted February 20, 2022 Hello, My M10-D serial is 5501334 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSee Posted February 21, 2022 Share #54 Posted February 21, 2022 M10-D SN 54884xx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted May 21, 2022 Share #55 Posted May 21, 2022 5500346 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted January 24, 2023 Share #56 Posted January 24, 2023 5490984 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtoleica Posted January 25, 2023 Share #57 Posted January 25, 2023 I sold mine after a few months back in 2021. Would like to get another but seem to be pure unobtainium in the UK..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsch Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share #58 Posted January 26, 2023 12 hours ago, newtoleica said: I sold mine after a few months back in 2021. Would like to get another but seem to be pure unobtainium in the UK..... @newtoleica I know what you mean. I only saw two for sale in the UK in 2022: one at mpb and one at lce bristol. My trick is to seach google images, past week option, and make sure "Leica M10-D" is in quotes otherwise it takes -D as meaning 'exclude the letter D' There is one advertised in Italy at the moment, but I cannot vouch for it not being a scam or something: https://www.msmaterialefotografico.it/prodotti/fotocamera-leica-m10-d/ Good luck, /datsch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 26, 2023 Share #59 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Datsch said: ...There is one advertised in Italy at the moment... My language skills are pretty much non-existent, Datsch, but even I can have a good guess as to what the bit circled means... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! On the 'plus' side this screen-grab was taken some 50 mins after your post so perhaps Brendan got in there earlier? Interesting to see that the M10-D appears to be just as difficult to find as the M-D Typ-262. I wonder if Leica might consider putting-out, say, a couple of thousand M11-D cameras after all? 🤔 Philip. Edited January 26, 2023 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! On the 'plus' side this screen-grab was taken some 50 mins after your post so perhaps Brendan got in there earlier? Interesting to see that the M10-D appears to be just as difficult to find as the M-D Typ-262. I wonder if Leica might consider putting-out, say, a couple of thousand M11-D cameras after all? 🤔 Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/324287-m10-d-production-numbers/?do=findComment&comment=4659066'>More sharing options...
Datsch Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share #60 Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, pippy said: My language skills are pretty much non-existent, Datsch, but even I can have a good guess as to what the bit circled means... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! On the 'plus' side this screen-grab was taken some 50 mins after your post so perhaps Brendan got in there earlier? Philip. Ah! You are quite right, I think 'Venduta' does mean 'sold' in Italian ... oh well ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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