Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #21  Posted July 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) >>Opinions from other users are only opinions to begin with. >>The best lens can become boringly good or best tool at most. Very true! >>I suspect that the reason Leica retired this lens was because it was eating in to the sales of the 50/2 (non-APO) Summicron. Yes, like with the CL rangefinder camera body rumoured to have eaten into M camera body sales in the 70s. Given I don't want to go over £650 I think it's going to be between the Elmar-M and the L-Hexanon as I think it's sharper than the M-Hex 50. I don't want to risk getting a soft copy with the Skopar. There are five or six Elmar-Ms available in UK camera shops as I look. With the Hexanon I'd have to import and risk getting a bad copy, but even so I'm being drawn towards it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted July 24, 2021 Share #22 Â Posted July 24, 2021 Beware that Hexanon lenses need to be calibrated to work fine on M bodies generally. So does my M-Hexanon 50/2 that i use with EVFs preferably. Great lens otherwise, superbly made with less flare than its model the Summicron 50/2 v5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #23  Posted July 24, 2021 Yes, I've found this in the past with the 28mm and 35mm M-Hexanons. The 50/2,4 Hexanon is LTM though so in theory should be to the Leica standard?  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 24, 2021 Share #24  Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Tessar. said: Yes, I've found this in the past with the 28mm and 35mm M-Hexanons. The 50/2,4 Hexanon is LTM though so in theory should be to the Leica standard?  I have no experience with this lens sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted July 24, 2021 Share #25  Posted July 24, 2021 16 hours ago, jaapv said: I do. And the reviews are not wrong. What are your experiences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 24, 2021 Share #26 Â Posted July 24, 2021 Sharp, contrasty. An excellent lens. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 24, 2021 Share #27 Â Posted July 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 hours ago, jaapv said: I do. And the reviews are not wrong. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted July 24, 2021 Share #28  Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tessar. said: There are five or six Elmar-Ms available in UK camera shops as I look The Chrome are brass and allegedly better built than black. It is a very nice lens and 6-bit code-able.I find it probably the easiest lens to focus, it really 'snaps'. You will find threads here and on Rangefinder Forum extolling its excellence. M10 / 50mm Elmar-M @ 5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 24, 2021 by pedaes 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244288'>More sharing options...
Gobert Posted July 24, 2021 Share #29  Posted July 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, pedaes said: The Chrome are brass and allegedly better built than black. It is a very nice lens and 6-bit code-able.I find it probably the easiest lens to focus, it really 'snaps'. You will find threads here and on Rangefinder Forum extolling its excellence. M10 / 50mm Elmar-M @ 5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It might be a good idea to search for a chrome one, thus emphasizing its heritage to the Leica history. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 24, 2021 Share #30  Posted July 24, 2021 The thing to watch out for are the locking springs on the barrel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 24, 2021 Share #31  Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, pedaes said: The Chrome are brass and allegedly better built than black. I have both and cannot see significant differences i must say. Both have brass helicoids but i don't see how the barrel is made otherwise. The silver chrome model is heavier though (245g vs 170g). BTW only the black anodized model has been sold with 6-bit coding AFAIK but i maybe wrong.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244340'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted July 24, 2021 Share #32  Posted July 24, 2021 I had used for many years as compact lens, the silver Elmar-M 50mm is a beauty and so smooth to use. I didn't use it much, so sold it at lost then bought a black anodized years later to see that the lens was far less smooth, so agains traded for another lens or body. A good combo with M3 (first batch 1954) ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! to be picky, not same hue in silver as M3 ! a bit shiny ...  3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! to be picky, not same hue in silver as M3 ! a bit shiny ...  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244379'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #33  Posted July 24, 2021 Thanks for the traction engine sample, looks good! Yes, the chrome is heavier and feels more solid (the one I once sent back with loose locking springs was weighty like an all brass lens). The Elmar-M one I had ten years ago was black and I remember it being quick to focus and nice to use.  I did have a 50mm Skopar S on my Nikon S2 for a little while around the same time and also had the L-Hex for one trip to Yorkshire. I searched through my lab scan files (some of them pretty bad) and dug these out Elmar-M Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! In several posts because of the limits...  1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! In several posts because of the limits...  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244486'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #34  Posted July 24, 2021 Elmar-M  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244488'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #35  Posted July 24, 2021 L-Hex 50mm f/2,4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244489'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #36  Posted July 24, 2021 L-Hex 50mm f/2,4 again Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244491'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #37  Posted July 24, 2021 50mm Skopar S  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244493'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #38  Posted July 24, 2021 And Skopar S again Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322943-friday-afternoon-50mm-lens-inspiration-needed/?do=findComment&comment=4244494'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share #39  Posted July 24, 2021 The uploads look less sharp than on my computer, and the crappy lab scans don't really show what the lenses can do. I think I can discount the Skopar, because from the copy I owned copy it's obviously less sharp than the other two, although it's not without its charm. There was quite a bit of glow in some of the samples that were against the light. The L-Hex pics I have are all in winter, in overcast conditions, and the scans are the worst of the lot so it's difficult to compare with the Elmar examples I have which were all taken in the summer. I do like the look which seems similar to the lens in the Hexar I had about 20 years ago. I guess one consideration is the Elmar will be much easier to sell if I ever decide to as it's a fairly well known lens.  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted July 24, 2021 Share #40 Â Posted July 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Tessar. said: The uploads look less sharp than on my computer Don't worry about it, they always do If you click on the images they open in (I think it's called) slideshow view. They look much better and can be enlarged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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