moghul Posted June 25, 2021 Share #1  Posted June 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I purchased a new Leica MP and have been using it now for about 4 months. I was reloading some film and noticed the paint in the two red dots on the rewind knob had leaked. Has anyone every encountered a similar issue?  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322125-paint-leak/?do=findComment&comment=4225968'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted June 25, 2021 Share #2 Â Posted June 25, 2021 Sloppy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 25, 2021 Share #3  Posted June 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, moghul said: Has anyone every encountered a similar issue? Yes, 30 years ago Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322125-paint-leak/?do=findComment&comment=4225986'>More sharing options...
moghul Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share #4  Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, lct said: Yes, 30 years ago Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wow! It’s a shame I experienced it after a few months in comparison to an older lens but I guess these things don’t follow a timeline of when to happen. Thanks for sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 25, 2021 Share #5 Â Posted June 25, 2021 Its a problem with hand painting stuff. I'm sure that automated systems are much more precise. Its the price you pay for artisanal finishing I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moghul Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share #6  Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, pgk said: Its a problem with hand painting stuff. I'm sure that automated systems are much more precise. Its the price you pay for artisanal finishing I'm afraid. When I got it, it was perfect, no issues. I just noticed a week ago that the paint had leaked out. Very strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 25, 2021 Share #7  Posted June 25, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, moghul said: Very strange. You are right. Must be very 'factory fresh' if the paint is still able to 'creep' like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 25, 2021 Share #8  Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, moghul said: When I got it, it was perfect, no issues. I just noticed a week ago that the paint had leaked out. Very strange. Do you use aftersave, insect repellent, sun screen, etc.? All these products can affect paint, less so the black of the camera but the types of paint they use for infill.  4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted June 25, 2021 Share #9  Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Looks a little different @moghul Did your dots look different at the beginning compared to today? Some "leaking" might be normal from the beginning due to the painting process? Edited June 25, 2021 by Helge Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Looks a little different @moghul Did your dots look different at the beginning compared to today? Some "leaking" might be normal from the beginning due to the painting process? ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322125-paint-leak/?do=findComment&comment=4226076'>More sharing options...
moghul Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share #10  Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Helge said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Looks a little different @moghul Did your dots look different at the beginning compared to today? Some "leaking" might be normal from the beginning due to the painting process? That’s exactly what happened to mine. Out the box it was fine and then eventually that happened. I ended up scratching off the excess paint with my fingernail so it looks more circular. I guess I’m not the only one. Thanks for sharing this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted June 25, 2021 Share #11  Posted June 25, 2021 Just a thought, we are assuming it's paint, maybe Leica have moved to using wax, so is heat simply melting it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moghul Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share #12  Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, 250swb said: Just a thought, we are assuming it's paint, maybe Leica have moved to using wax, so is heat simply melting it? This would make sense because when I scratched off the residue it came off fairly easy and didn’t scratch off like it was paint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted June 25, 2021 Share #13  Posted June 25, 2021 I think, this is very rare, I never heard about it before. The paint is dry, once the camera has been delivered to you, so it is more than unlikely that it is able to move after 4 months. The suspicion @250swbdid ask about (later contact to any chemicals like a solvent) seems to be a lot more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted June 25, 2021 Share #14  Posted June 25, 2021 vor 7 Minuten schrieb 250swb: Just a thought, we are assuming it's paint, maybe Leica have moved to using wax, so is heat simply melting it? Wax would probably come off too easy. vor 5 Minuten schrieb moghul: This would make sense because when I scratched off the residue it came off fairly easy and didn’t scratch off like it was paint If you dissolved the paint somehow, this would also work, since the red paint moved on top of the black one. I would contact customer service if I would be in your place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted June 25, 2021 Share #15  Posted June 25, 2021 good grief! 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted June 25, 2021 Share #16 Â Posted June 25, 2021 My guess is epoxy paint mixed with insufficient hardener. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted June 25, 2021 Share #17  Posted June 25, 2021 This is a theoretical possibility, but nobody is mixing this type of paint components in a manufacturing plant, so the paint would have been delivered to Leica that way. I‘m still in favor of any solvent from fingers or bag. Another theoretical possibility would be shellac, however also unlikely, probably too difficult to handle in production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 25, 2021 Share #18  Posted June 25, 2021 I wonder if HCB would have been lying awake about something like this (although I’m convinced that having a good feeling with your camera is important for your results). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted June 25, 2021 Share #19 Â Posted June 25, 2021 Did he also face leaked paint? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted June 25, 2021 Share #20  Posted June 25, 2021 5 hours ago, 250swb said: Do you use aftersave, insect repellent, sun screen, etc.? All these products can affect paint, less so the black of the camera but the types of paint they use for infill.  Hand sanitizer? Would that affect the paint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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