Mpi Posted May 5 Share #61 Posted May 5 Advertisement (gone after registration) Did anyone compare AF performance with an S5 or S1? I use an S1H for video and AF seems to be significantly better than with the SL2. So I wonder whether there's hope that my SL2 will ever get into S1H territory? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Posted May 5 Share #62 Posted May 5 59 minutes ago, Mpi said: Did anyone compare AF performance with an S5 or S1? I use an S1H for video and AF seems to be significantly better than with the SL2. So I wonder whether there's hope that my SL2 will ever get into S1H territory? Could it be the lens you use ? I wonder if sigma and pana lenses perform better than the clunky sl lenses on the SL2S... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkinVan Posted May 5 Share #63 Posted May 5 It not all bad news https://www.thephoblographer.com/2021/05/04/leica-sl2s-autofocus-firmware-2/ caissa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mpi Posted May 5 Share #64 Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Steven said: Could it be the lens you use ? I wonder if sigma and pana lenses perform better than the clunky sl lenses on the SL2S... I only own Leica lenses (APO-Summicron-SL 35, 75, and 90, the Vario-Elmar 24-90 and 90-280, and the Summilux-SL 50). AF for all of them is faster and more precise on the S1H than the SL2. As both the Panasonics and the Leicas use a contrast based AF I was hoping that this update might bring Leica to Panasonic levels. So I was wondering whether someone tried. @MarkinVan's post at least gives me hope (just to be clear: I don't think AF is terrible and it is certainly not something that limits me 99.99% of the time -- but if I can get an improvement I will happily take it) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Posted May 5 Share #65 Posted May 5 1 hour ago, MarkinVan said: It not all bad news https://www.thephoblographer.com/2021/05/04/leica-sl2s-autofocus-firmware-2/ AF for photos is great. It was before the update too. The problem is continuous af in video. It’s not very usable and not on par At all with Sony and canon. Makes it a manual video çamera. Slender and simon_hsn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frame-it Posted May 5 Share #66 Posted May 5 4 hours ago, Simone_DF said: The Maestro III is probably at its limits which is why i wonder why people keep talking about Apple ProresRaw, not to mention Apples Licensing process Aaron Daniel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Daniel Posted May 5 Share #67 Posted May 5 Advertisement (gone after registration) 35 minutes ago, frame-it said: which is why i wonder why people keep talking about Apple ProresRaw, not to mention Apples Licensing process Aah yes I can see the processor being the barrier in this way (as well as the licensing requirement). Is there any news or literature that points to the Maestro III being incompatible with ProRes Raw? Please excuse my ignorance on this subject 😅 suffice it to say I was in fact holding my breath for Raw to be enabled in this update Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frame-it Posted May 5 Share #68 Posted May 5 42 minutes ago, Aaron Daniel said: Aah yes I can see the processor being the barrier in this way (as well as the licensing requirement). Is there any news or literature that points to the Maestro III being incompatible with ProRes Raw? Please excuse my ignorance on this subject 😅 suffice it to say I was in fact holding my breath for Raw to be enabled in this update i didn't say "incompatible", i quoted "The Maestro III is probably at its limits," Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven Posted May 6 Share #69 Posted May 6 Just came across this video.. I'm aways from my cameras right now. Does any one know if this simple trick works on the SL2S as well ? Kim Dahl, satijntje and Slender 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i-Leica Posted May 7 Share #70 Posted May 7 good news, that the next firmware for the SL2 will have all the same futures included in the update for the SL2-s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slender Posted May 8 Share #71 Posted May 8 12 hours ago, i-Leica said: good news, that the next firmware for the SL2 will have all the same futures included in the update for the SL2-s Read about it when SL2s came out in december but nothing since.... it better be lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ruskkyle Posted May 10 Share #72 Posted May 10 Can't see anything on this so can anybody with firmware 2.0 confirm whether 4k 50p is still cropped to APS-C mode? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simon_hsn Posted May 10 Share #73 Posted May 10 34 minutes ago, ruskkyle said: Can't see anything on this so can anybody with firmware 2.0 confirm whether 4k 50p is still cropped to APS-C mode? Thanks. Still cropped. This has nothing to do with the firmware. Rather it is a limitation of the sensor readout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ruskkyle Posted May 10 Share #74 Posted May 10 26 minutes ago, simon_hsn said: Still cropped. This has nothing to do with the firmware. Rather it is a limitation of the sensor readout. Thanks. Though as I understand it, 50p is now recorded in 10bit 4K? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simon_hsn Posted May 10 Share #75 Posted May 10 1 minute ago, ruskkyle said: Thanks. Though as I understand it, 50p is now recorded in 10bit 4K? Yes, but it is with 4.2.0 color only. I need to do a little testing myself, but the 200 Mbit/s HEVC (aka H.265) 10 bit 4.2.0 seems decent enough to mix it with the 24/25/30p 400 Mbit/s 10 bit 4.2.2. codec in All-I H.264 compression. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slender Posted May 10 Share #76 Posted May 10 In the meantime you can do 10 bits 4K 422 60fps in FF with SL2 if you use Atomos... Leica please bring us the 5K 10bits in 422 for SL2 FW 3.0 🙏🙏🙏 simon_hsn, MediaFotografie and Aaron Daniel 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
profus Posted May 11 Share #77 Posted May 11 On 5/7/2021 at 8:57 PM, i-Leica said: good news, that the next firmware for the SL2 will have all the same futures included in the update for the SL2-s You have some inside info or...? If yes - WHEN do we get the SL2 fw? Jeffry Abt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slender Posted May 11 Share #78 Posted May 11 I heard July... Simone_DF and profus 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Photoworks Posted May 12 Share #79 Posted May 12 looks cool, can be useful in some applications.. satijntje, Aaron Daniel, Kim Dahl and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hansvons Posted May 12 Share #80 Posted May 12 The Follow Focus thing in FW 2.0 is in my very humble opinion a classic example of over-engineering. The only application which I would try to use this feature is when a motion control focus pull is needed. But then I had a proper cine camera. I’ve tried this with a Canon 500Mk2. It takes longer to set this thing up than just to take the shot a few times. Focus pulls are a filmmaker’s daily bread. It’s like panning a craft you learn (not difficult). No digital assistance required. I could think of many things I’d rather have developed than this gimmick. LocalHero1953, Aaron Daniel, Slender and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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