thomas_schertel Posted January 11, 2022 Share #541 Posted January 11, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Now I have the two supplementary lenses for the Makina IIs: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4351143'>More sharing options...
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romanus53 Posted January 11, 2022 Share #542 Posted January 11, 2022 vor 2 Stunden schrieb thomas_schertel: Now I have the two supplementary lenses for the Makina IIs: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! yours sincerely Thomas Fine setup, later Plaubel offered a back with focal-plane shutter to shoot 1/1000 sec and a back to use 35 mm film so you can still look around for these items 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 11, 2022 Share #543 Posted January 11, 2022 3 Nagel/Kodak Vollendas. The middle one has a Leitz Elmar and the left and right hand ones have Schneider Radionar lenses. Dr Nagel sold his business to Kodak and hence the camera on the right has 'Kodak' on its Compur shutter. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Nagel then developed the Retina camera with Kodak, along with the reusable 35mm cassettes, which we still use today. These two cameras with Schneider Xenar Lenses have their Compur shutters marked 'Kodak', of course, but they have depth of field scales which are variants of those on the later Vollendas and the Nagel Pupille. William 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Nagel then developed the Retina camera with Kodak, along with the reusable 35mm cassettes, which we still use today. These two cameras with Schneider Xenar Lenses have their Compur shutters marked 'Kodak', of course, but they have depth of field scales which are variants of those on the later Vollendas and the Nagel Pupille. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4351533'>More sharing options...
Ambro51 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share #544 Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) My German teacher is High School was Frau Nagel. ......her nickname was “Frog Nostrils” Edited January 11, 2022 by Ambro51 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 11, 2022 Share #545 Posted January 11, 2022 William, do you know what Herr Nagel did after Kodak? Did he leave Germany? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted January 11, 2022 Share #546 Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My inherited Verascope. The picture is not a selfie made by the camera.😉 Edited January 11, 2022 by jankap 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My inherited Verascope. The picture is not a selfie made by the camera.😉 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4351589'>More sharing options...
sandro Posted January 11, 2022 Share #547 Posted January 11, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice piece of history you show us here again, William! Fascinating to see that the basic form of my Kodak Retina 1a is already there in the older ones you show us here, thanks! Lex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 11, 2022 Share #548 Posted January 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, jankap said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My inherited Verascope. The picture is not a selfie made by the camera.😉 My Verascope dates from about 40 years earlier (1914-15). Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted January 12, 2022 Share #549 Posted January 12, 2022 vor 7 Stunden schrieb wlaidlaw: William, do you know what Herr Nagel did after Kodak? Did he leave Germany? Wilson the German wikipedia claims "August Nagel verstarb 1943 im Alter von 61 Jahren. Das Nagel-Werk, zu dieser Zeit wieder auf Rüstungsproduktion umgestellt, wurde 1944 bei britischen Luftangriffen beschädigt. Nach dem Krieg wurde das Werk in Stuttgart-Wangen Hauptsitz von Kodak Deutschland. Sein Sohn Helmut Nagel war von 1953 bis 1979 Vorstandsvorsitzender der Kodak-Werke in der BRD" so he died early and his son followed some time later working for Kodak 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted January 12, 2022 Share #550 Posted January 12, 2022 10 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: My Verascope dates from about 40 years earlier (1914-15). Wilson My Verascope is the F40 from 1938, lenses still not coated. It is a brick, but not too heavy. My father used it very much, he tried to project the slides in stereo too. His brother constructed a stereo projector for him. This project (of 1950-60) was not successful, because it was too time-consuming to align the slides for every projected picture, as the slides were single mounted. Also the pola-filters consumed much light, so the projection was very dark. I used the camera too. The slides put into a handheld viewer, deliver a nice stereo experience. With a digital camera - taking 2 pictures - is a much easier procedure. I use now the Polaroid glassless media player. It offers the MPO format with 1280 x 768 pixels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 12, 2022 Share #551 Posted January 12, 2022 11 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: William, do you know what Herr Nagel did after Kodak? Did he leave Germany? Wilson He died in 1943 during the war. So, he never got to see the post war Retinas. He was a major figure with the Zeiss Ikon and Kodak deals and, of course, the 35mm cassette. The cameras with his own name are lovely, particularly the Pupille. He should be better remembered. I intend to work his contribution into my talk about the Compur type shutters for PCCGB on 30th January. There are other important 'unknown figures' like Deckel and Bruns without whom a lot of developments would not have been possible. They belong on the same podium as Barnack. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 12, 2022 Share #552 Posted January 12, 2022 5 hours ago, romanus53 said: the German wikipedia claims "August Nagel verstarb 1943 im Alter von 61 Jahren. Das Nagel-Werk, zu dieser Zeit wieder auf Rüstungsproduktion umgestellt, wurde 1944 bei britischen Luftangriffen beschädigt. Nach dem Krieg wurde das Werk in Stuttgart-Wangen Hauptsitz von Kodak Deutschland. Sein Sohn Helmut Nagel war von 1953 bis 1979 Vorstandsvorsitzender der Kodak-Werke in der BRD" so he died early and his son followed some time later working for Kodak I have some books on their way to me from Germany about Deckel, the Retina and the German industry in the 1920s and 30s, but they are all, naturally enough, in German. This is not a situation that has been fully written up in English. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted January 12, 2022 Share #553 Posted January 12, 2022 Tower of Babel would be one explanation. In my youth I was forced at French, German and English, and Dutch of course. That served me well for a long time. Later on I tried Russian, Arabic and Japanese. But one has to live in such an environment, to learn it well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin K Posted January 12, 2022 Share #554 Posted January 12, 2022 William, You do not mention the books you are to receive from Germany. One of the books on my shelf that I enjoy reading every now and again is the book "Zauber der Kamera - Beispiele aus dem Kodak-Nagel Werk" written by Helmut Nagel. Over and above a complete list of the cameras of the Nagel factory, the first chapter is a fairly detailed story of Dr August Nagel's life. It was published in 1977 by Deutsche-Verlags Anstalt. The ISBN is 3-421-02516-9. Kind regards, Martin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary Posted January 12, 2022 Share #555 Posted January 12, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4352476'>More sharing options...
sandro Posted January 12, 2022 Share #556 Posted January 12, 2022 To get back to my earlier remark about the Kodak Retina 1a, here it is. Lex Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4352770'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 16, 2022 Share #557 Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 1:57 PM, Martin K said: William, You do not mention the books you are to receive from Germany. One of the books on my shelf that I enjoy reading every now and again is the book "Zauber der Kamera - Beispiele aus dem Kodak-Nagel Werk" written by Helmut Nagel. Over and above a complete list of the cameras of the Nagel factory, the first chapter is a fairly detailed story of Dr August Nagel's life. It was published in 1977 by Deutsche-Verlags Anstalt. The ISBN is 3-421-02516-9. Kind regards, Martin Thanks for that. The ones I ordered and received were Hartmut Thiele’s books on the Deckel Compur and the Kodak Retina. The latter starts with a painting of Dr Nagel and contains a lot of information about him and his involvement with Kodak. I also ordered Willi Kerkmann’s book on German Cameras from 1900 to 1945, but what I received was a signed copy of his book on cameras from 1945 to 1986. I am keeping that, but I have asked the booksellers to check if they have the first volume. I actually have my slides done for the talk now and they include Contessas, Nagels and Retinas, all ‘produced’ by Dr August Nagel, as well as other cameras. Deckel, Gauthier, Leitz and Zeiss will, of course, feature in my talk for PCCGB. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 16, 2022 Share #558 Posted January 16, 2022 William, Have you got the new website address for the PCCGB? The address I was given: https://www.pccgb.net/ gives a fake/corrupted website warning. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 16, 2022 Share #559 Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: William, Have you got the new website address for the PCCGB? The address I was given: https://www.pccgb.net/ gives a fake/corrupted website warning. Wilson The warning says the certificate is valid for the site pccgb.net but not www.pccgb.net. Having given me adequate warning, my browser (firefox) allows me to visit the site anyway. It's not that big a deal. If in doubt, use the private mode of your browser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted January 16, 2022 Share #560 Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: William, Have you got the new website address for the PCCGB? The address I was given: https://www.pccgb.net/ gives a fake/corrupted website warning. Wilson Hopefully, this link should work for you https://pccgb.net . That one works and is not corrupted. PCCGB is a great organisation and I have been enjoying their Sunday morning Zooms for about 6 months now and I have made a few presentations, a full length one on Irish Photography since 1839 and shorter ones on Leica items and Grubb lenses. My presentation on 30th January will be full length and will feature the people and products mentioned above. The level of knowledge and experience in the PCCGB is astonishing. One old chap recently showed us a Leica which he had bought in 1948! We also have people like John Wade who writes on vintage cameras for the Amateur Photographer and Tim Goldsmith of Chiswick Auctions. Tim is currently doing up a new register of Reid cameras. If you wish I can PM or email you the contact details of the people who organise the PCCGB Zooms. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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