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4 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

At my advanced age my German capabilities have gone into reverse. I can still manage menus, taxis, trains, booking counters and hotel check-ins but that is about it. The problem is I have never lived in a German speaking country which if you want to be fluent, is essential. I lived for a year in the French speaking part of Switzerland, so my French comes fairly naturally to me, other than my cleaning lady, Antoinette, in France, whose guttural Provençal accent and odd syntax, makes her French near impenetrable. 

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With all due respect: it's only about reading

by a most eloquent and precise English speaker,

what a meticulous engineer wrote 100 years ago,

about a suject, that he truly appreciates.

Dutch not living in the UK nor in D cope well, also those with an average intellect.

I'm learning a new language related to the ones I speak. It's not easy, but there's progress - age problem.

ps Google translate "sucks" and so do bing and deepl. Run a text through all three on split screens and then use natural intelligence and type your own version - the pleasure of heureka.

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10 hours ago, zeitz said:

A scanner, PDFgear with its excellent OCR, and Google Translate work well for me.  I could try to translate it myself, but I would soon wear out a German to English dictionary.

When I was learning to speak basic German about 60+ years ago, our course textbook was Thomas Mann's Buddenbrooks. Mann writes long convoluted sentences in grammatically near perfect ,if somewhat old fashioned German, with all the verbs at the end of the sentence. This means you often have to turn the page over to get some sort of clue as to what he is talking about and go through the verbs with a German to English dictionary. In retrospect, a rather unsuitable book for tyro learners of German. I am sure that methodologies of teaching German have improved immensely in more recent years but too late for me. Using an online translation engine, makes for a very stilted reading experience, which is far from enjoyable. 

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here is something for the English people among us:
The May Fair Camera (originally made by Houghton Butcher, England). People collected coupons form Ardath Tobacco and were able to exchange them for a camera. Would be a good idea for Leica 😃. The close up lens is behind a little door.

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Zeiss-Ikon Bobette II with the famous Ernemann 4,2cm f/2 Anastigmat-"Ernostar" by Ludwig Bertele. The camera is from about 1928 when Ernemann was taken over by Zeiss-Ikon.

Currently I'm trying to find a way to use the camera again. The unperforated paperbacked 35mm film format is long dead, so I will just use a normal orthochromatic film with 120 format paper backing cut to size. Should work.

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15 hours ago, SpotmaticSP said:

Zeiss-Ikon Bobette II with the famous Ernemann 4,2cm f/2 Anastigmat-"Ernostar" by Ludwig Bertele. The camera is from about 1928 when Ernemann was taken over by Zeiss-Ikon.

Currently I'm trying to find a way to use the camera again. The unperforated paperbacked 35mm film format is long dead, so I will just use a normal orthochromatic film with 120 format paper backing cut to size. Should work.

 

 

It's worth a try...  the standard frame format was 22x32... Which spools con be used for the cut 120 film ? And how to manage a correct film advancing ?

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Might the spools be 127 film size (46mm wide for 40 x 40mm images). I wonder if the original film might have been 102 (1.5 x 2 inches), which went out of production in 1933, so would have been available at the time these cameras were made. If they are 127, I may have some spare spools. 

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2 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said:

It's worth a try...  the standard frame format was 22x32... Which spools con be used for the cut 120 film ? And how to manage a correct film advancing ?

The plan (for now) is using 35mm film. So I will expose over the perforations. So the paper back from the 120 roll will be cut to size. Actually I'm already experimenting with some leftover materials.

For fun (and reference) I have made a size comparison with my Leica I model C. So now you know how small the Bobette really is.

 

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2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Might the spools be 127 film size (46mm wide for 40 x 40mm images). I wonder if the original film might have been 102 (1.5 x 2 inches), which went out of production in 1933, so would have been available at the time these cameras were made. If they are 127, I may have some spare spools. 

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Funny that you would mention the 127 format. The Bobette seems to have been modified to take different spools, but I was unable to identify them. Definitely not 127; those are way too large. Unfortunately the Bobette only came with one spool, which was not original. I don't even recognize the maker. But I did use a 127 spool which I modified and that worked out well.

I mentioned orthochromatic film, because this camera is very hard to load. Let alone with modified film spools. Fortunately orthochromatic film can be handled with a red light in the darkroom, so that would make things a bit easier. 🙂 

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Who can tell me anything about this Mirco camera? It has a 105mm Tessar lens with a 6x9 format. With rangefinder and all appears to be working.From a late friend’s collection.

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17 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

Who can tell me anything about this Mirco camera? It has a 105mm Tessar lens with a 6x9 format. With rangefinder and all appears to be working.From a late friend’s collection.

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An aerial camera? An image search brings up two names, the Metropolitan Instrument Repair Company of 5 Friern Barnet Road, London, and mentioned alongside a photo of the camera in a 2012 issue of the Friern Barnet Newsletter (is it the very same camera?), and the Williamson Kinematograph Company which which is possibly a less reliable lead.

http://www.friern-barnethistory.org.uk/userfiles/file/Newsletters/2010-2019/2012/No-49-Apr-2012.pdf

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1 hour ago, 250swb said:

An aerial camera? An image search brings up two names, the Metropolitan Instrument Repair Company of 5 Friern Barnet Road, London, and mentioned alongside a photo of the camera in a 2012 issue of the Friern Barnet Newsletter (is it the very same camera?), and the Williamson Kinematograph Company which which is possibly a less reliable lead.

http://www.friern-barnethistory.org.uk/userfiles/file/Newsletters/2010-2019/2012/No-49-Apr-2012.pdf

Good catch ! Is clearly that camera, with a slightly different back (thinner ? for sheet film instead of rolls ? not with advance lever, anyway... but probably Graflex compatible as described); the lens is Super Ikonta model, I'd say, and the RF coupling is also inspired to Super Ikonta

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1 hour ago, 250swb said:

An aerial camera? An image search brings up two names, the Metropolitan Instrument Repair Company of 5 Friern Barnet Road, London, and mentioned alongside a photo of the camera in a 2012 issue of the Friern Barnet Newsletter (is it the very same camera?), and the Williamson Kinematograph Company which which is possibly a less reliable lead.

http://www.friern-barnethistory.org.uk/userfiles/file/Newsletters/2010-2019/2012/No-49-Apr-2012.pdf

Friern Barnet Road is N11 post code, as shown on the camera so that is almost certainly the correct company.

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12 minutes ago, luigi bertolotti said:

Uh... what MPP stands for ?

..OK... 😉 https://www.mrcad.co.uk/?product=mpp-press-frame-finder... once a respected manufacturer, I see : https://jolommencam.com/European/MPP/Micropress.html (Linhof competitor ?)

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On 6/25/2025 at 7:08 PM, SpotmaticSP said:

Zeiss-Ikon Bobette II with the famous Ernemann 4,2cm f/2 Anastigmat-"Ernostar" by Ludwig Bertele. The camera is from about 1928 when Ernemann was taken over by Zeiss-Ikon.

Currently I'm trying to find a way to use the camera again. The unperforated paperbacked 35mm film format is long dead, so I will just use a normal orthochromatic film with 120 format paper backing cut to size. Should work.

See: http://www.bnphoto.org/bnphoto/Kodak828.htm because 828 film was, I think, also paperbacked, unperforated 35mm film.

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2 hours ago, pgk said:

See: http://www.bnphoto.org/bnphoto/Kodak828.htm because 828 film was, I think, also paperbacked, unperforated 35mm film.

That is true, although it would never fit my Bobette II. I have discovered my Bobette was modified to accept other film spools than original. Not 127, not 828. I still do not know what it is but I managed to make another spool. So I hope to take some shots in the coming months.

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