TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share #21 Posted March 7, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318668-m-apo352-vs-352asph-v1-vs-3514-fle/?do=findComment&comment=4155875'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 7, 2021 Posted March 7, 2021 Hi TheGodParticle/Hari, Take a look here M-APO35/2 vs 35/2ASPH (v1) vs 35/1.4 FLE. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
fisheess Posted March 8, 2021 Share #22 Posted March 8, 2021 Excellent lens. The more details the more obvious the advantage over older lenses is visible. Color fringing is practically non existant. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted March 8, 2021 Share #23 Posted March 8, 2021 Great thread. Would appreciate to see more "scientific" comparisons with other 35mm lenses. But what we see here is great. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roma Posted March 8, 2021 Share #24 Posted March 8, 2021 Looking forward to seeing how the V1 ASPH and FLE do compared to the APO. Thank you for doing this! If possible, will you please include a couple of "real world" comparison shots at different distances? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) On 3/7/2021 at 4:15 PM, Jeff S said: Thanks, Hari. I added a paragraph on bokeh to my post, in case you have further thoughts. The ‘clicks’ I referred to are aperture clicks, not focusing, although I also care about smoothness of focus turn. Thanks again. Jeff Hope this video is of help on the subject of the Aperture clicks, as well as focus mechanism and degree of focus throw: https://youtu.be/EpAywQqpA0U Edited March 8, 2021 by TheGodParticle/Hari 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 8, 2021 Share #26 Posted March 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: Hope this video is of help on the subject of the Aperture clicks, as well as focus mechanism and degree of focus throw: https://youtu.be/EpAywQqpA0U Great, thanks! Very clear aperture detents, unusual with recent releases it seems. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share #27 Posted March 8, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, Jeff S said: Great, thanks! Very clear aperture detents, unusual with recent releases it seems. Indeed, I really really dislike sloppy aperture clicks and a focus mechanism with low resistance. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMF Posted March 8, 2021 Share #28 Posted March 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: Indeed, I really really dislike sloppy aperture clicks and a focus mechanism with low resistance. Thanks very much for the video, it’s very helpful to see the aperture clicks, the detent, and focus throw(s). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted March 8, 2021 Share #29 Posted March 8, 2021 Mics can be inhumanly sensitive to things like clicks but I too am relieved by what I'm seeing despite hearing sub-optimal aperture ring reports from owners like @Steven 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share #30 Posted March 8, 2021 In case you were wondering what’s going on in the first few seconds of the video, that’s the “front heaviness” test. If the APO35 is mounted on the camera, it doesn’t tip over. Even with the hood on. Nicely balanced. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 8, 2021 Share #31 Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: Indeed, I really really dislike sloppy aperture clicks and a focus mechanism with low resistance. Agreed, or sticky focus action. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share #32 Posted March 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Steven said: Well I would not call mine nicely balanced. My Nokton, my pre asph Lux, or my cron v4 are nicely balanced. My APO is on the verge of tipping over. Sure it doesnt tip over like my pre fle, but if someone knocks into the table, it just might. As for the aperture ring, it clicks nice, thank god, but mine is too fluid. It does not have enough resistance and its too close to the focus ring. So because the focus ring is so long, I often end up changing the aperture when focusing. While I'm not the first to report this, I think its just a matter of getting used to it and adapting the grip. Happens with many lenses. When I first tried the 28 summation, it was so small that I kept covering the lens with my fingers when focusing. Grip adaptation. I guess it depends on what we use on a regular basis. For me, the 21Lux, 28Lux, 35Lux, 50/1 v4, APO50, 75/1.4 and APO90 are in heavy rotation. So when a lens like the APO35 is on the camera and it doesn’t tip over, I find that nicely balanced. Sorry to hear your sample has a fluid aperture ring. Would you mind sharing a video? It’s so much easier to share details via videos than words can convey. “So because the focus ring is so long, I often end up changing the aperture when focusing. While I'm not the first to report this, I think its just a matter of getting used to it and adapting the grip. Happens with many lenses.” +1. This is not unique to this lens and happens to me all the time with the 28/2.8asph, 35/2asph v1 and 35/2.8, when I leave the hood on. For this very reason I prefer to shoot these lenses without the hood on. Thanks to the focus ring on the APO35, this happens less frequently to me than with the aforementioned lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 9, 2021 Share #33 Posted March 9, 2021 Good God almighty! That tipping forward on a table will surely have a profound degradation of the images captured with it. I will NOT buy that lens if it tips forward on a table. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roma Posted March 9, 2021 Share #34 Posted March 9, 2021 6 hours ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: In case you were wondering what’s going on in the first few seconds of the video, that’s the “front heaviness” test. If the APO35 is mounted on the camera, it doesn’t tip over. Even with the hood on. Nicely balanced. Does it tip forward when you carry it on your shoulder/neck? Thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share #35 Posted March 9, 2021 9 hours ago, jdlaing said: Good God almighty! That tipping forward on a table will surely have a profound degradation of the images captured with it. I will NOT buy that lens if it tips forward on a table. Dont worry. It won’t have any impact on the actual images. Pinky promise! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share #36 Posted March 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Steven said: Quick video illustrating what I was saying earlier regarding the APO being front heavy. Sure, you can put it flat on on a table, unlike the 28lux or a noctilux ! But it isn’t stable and will easily tip over. This is without the hood too. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kjKQV25wXDnLD3WBy_A0Te1D3ydznbFF As for the aperture ring, I would love to make you a video but I’m not sure how you will see wether it’s too fluid on not. But if you have any suggestion how to go about it let me know. cheers It’s finally sunny today, I’m on my way out to test the lenses on one body. In the meanwhile, I tried the tip forward test on an m10 classic, thinking maybe the weight of the safari had a role to play. Maybe it’s your plank that’s a bit tilted? Take a look: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share #37 Posted March 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Steven said: We can tell it’s on the verge. Plus you have a strap and a thumb rest to help make it back heavy. enjoy the sun If the focus scale is expanded to infinity, it plops straight down to the front as you see towards the end of the video. Good points with the strap and thumbs up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktsa5239 Posted March 9, 2021 Share #38 Posted March 9, 2021 May I ask if the lens hood on the APO35 blocks the ovf like the FLE does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktsa5239 Posted March 9, 2021 Share #39 Posted March 9, 2021 46 minutes ago, Steven said: it doesn't at all Oh man, now I want to trade in my FLE for the APO35 even more.... I really like the way 50APO renders but loves the 35 focal length. But I cant justify another big purchase since I've bought the M10R only a months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightsqueez Posted March 10, 2021 Share #40 Posted March 10, 2021 13 hours ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: It’s finally sunny today, I’m on my way out to test the lenses on one body. In the meanwhile, I tried the tip forward test on an m10 classic, thinking maybe the weight of the safari had a role to play. Maybe it’s your plank that’s a bit tilted? Take a look: Just when I thought the “unboxing” video was the all time low.... really? Tip test????? 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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