jonoslack Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share #61 Posted March 6, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 hours ago, northernlights said: Leica has to up the game with Voigtlander hot on its heels in lens development with the recent apo lanthars. There will always be purists who can afford and enjoy the porsches of the world of photography. There will always be that demand, as long as Leica continues the rangefinder and M mount. But there is that other group who may, for affordability and practicality sake, buy the 3rd party lenses because they see no significant persuasion to pay x no of times cost unless they can find a mint used leica, by which severely limits first hand buyer losses, because Leica lenses command an intrinsic value. Whereas VM and the rest are not holding value much used. Hi there . . not just Voigtlander . . also Sigma (for the L mount) Isn't it fantastic - you can buy a cracking lens at a sensible price for either system, and my feeling is that Sigma and Voigtlander both have a real spirit about them producing great lenses. I'm not sure that the market is particularly competitive though, I imagine that most people (like me) will use them to fill in the gaps for the slightly less used focal lengths. Anything which gives us options helps Leica (IMHO) by broadening the scope of the system and opening it up to the less well heeled. Best Jono 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonoslack Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share #62 Posted March 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Rick said: Jono, I felt you could have put a wee bit more effort into the dog photography! Not up to your usual standard of - dog on a windy cliff sort of photography, somewhat disappointing. I'll have to go see what Sean Reid has done with his test photos of his veritable quandary of vegetables. Seriously, all the best. Hi Rick I hope you're flourishing - greetings from the UK and all the best back to you. Sorry about the dog pictures - I'll try harder in future! In case you missed it, here's one from back in October with the M10-R and the 35 APO Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318553-review-the-new-leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4154848'>More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted March 6, 2021 Share #63 Posted March 6, 2021 Would be interesting to see how the 35mm Summarit f2.4 holds up against this new APO Summicron. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share #64 Posted March 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, SiOnara said: Would be interesting to see how the 35mm Summarit f2.4 holds up against this new APO Summicron. I'd be interested as well - that was a cracking lens, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted March 6, 2021 Share #65 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Simply too good to resist. Put in an order today.... 😍 Question is do I keep my FLE or ditch it. I think I have 5-6 35mm lenses.... Sentimentally the FLE is very dear to me. Today set up for a afternoon stroll. "I hope within this month. I’ll reserve one for you. I’ll let you know when it arrives." Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 6, 2021 by M10Alpine 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318553-review-the-new-leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4154875'>More sharing options...
microview Posted March 6, 2021 Share #66 Posted March 6, 2021 More images, taken in Cardiff at https://www.reddotforum.com/content/2021/03/leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f-2-asph/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 6, 2021 Share #67 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Whoops, wrong thread - doh! Edited March 6, 2021 by Keith (M) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted March 6, 2021 Share #68 Posted March 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Keith (M) said: In the pub. 50mm Summilux-M ASPH, M10M. Click to view in LightBox. Did you post this in the right thread Keith? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 6, 2021 Share #69 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, farnz said: Did you post this in the right thread Keith? Pete. Already amended Pete! Edited March 6, 2021 by Keith (M) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted March 6, 2021 Share #70 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Leica lenses command an intrinsic value. Whereas VM and the rest are not holding value much used. Yes but think of the s/h value of this new lens after they have become plentiful. Probably £6700 x 85% = £5700, less commission 15 or 20%, 5k max refund. So £1700 lost versus two VMs almost written off completely! However, 'revenons à nos moutons' – or cattle, dogs and vegetables... Edited March 6, 2021 by microview 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted March 6, 2021 Share #71 Posted March 6, 2021 7 hours ago, SiOnara said: Would be interesting to see how the 35mm Summarit f2.4 holds up against this new APO Summicron. That would be interesting, I have the 35/2.4 Summarit and like it a lot. I have little doubt it would be bettered in some respects by the 35 APO (at least I'd hope so, given the price differential), but a comparison would be fun to see. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted March 6, 2021 Share #72 Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, logan2z said: That would be interesting, I have the 35/2.4 Summarit and like it a lot. I have little doubt it would be bettered in some respects by the 35 APO (at least I'd hope so, given the price differential), but a comparison would be fun to see. Yes. The obvious comparison with the new APO is the current non-APO Summicron, but the little Summarit is very good. Maybe Sean Reid will compare these in a future post on his site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted March 6, 2021 Share #73 Posted March 6, 2021 7 hours ago, SiOnara said: Would be interesting to see how the 35mm Summarit f2.4 holds up against this new APO Summicron. It kinda feels like this new lens is the super expensive version of the 35mm Summarit. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted March 6, 2021 Share #74 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, sebben said: It kinda feels like this new lens is the super expensive version of the 35mm Summarit. It kinda feels like this new lens is the super expensive version of the 35mm Summicron. : ) Edited March 6, 2021 by dkmoore 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted March 6, 2021 Share #75 Posted March 6, 2021 Yeah but look at the design of the hoods and the lens itself Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318553-review-the-new-leica-apo-summicron-m-35mm-f2-asph/?do=findComment&comment=4155133'>More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted March 6, 2021 Share #76 Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sebben said: Yeah but look at the design of the hoods and the lens itself Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I know I know. Was poking a little fun.that’s what quarantine for a year will do to you. It does have a similar design look. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebben Posted March 6, 2021 Share #77 Posted March 6, 2021 Yes, the lock down is driving us all mad. We now gratefully accept a 35mm F2 lens costing $8195 whilst a whole lot of folks have lost their jobs and loved ones. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelmer Posted March 6, 2021 Share #78 Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sebben said: Yes, the lock down is driving us all mad. We now gratefully accept a 35mm F2 lens costing $8195 whilst a whole lot of folks have lost their jobs and loved ones. Well, that's life... 🤔 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share #79 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, sebben said: Yeah but look at the design of the hoods and the lens itself Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The summarit seems to be a great deal bigger 😇 Lens hood seems shallower on the APO - but otherwise similar design - but the design is really quite different: 10 elements vs 6 4 Asph surfaces vs 1 6 APO elements vs 0 whatever Edited March 6, 2021 by jonoslack 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 6, 2021 Share #80 Posted March 6, 2021 Seeing the lens designs of the 35 Summarit and the new Summicron next to each others makes me look at the new lens with mixed feelings. The Summarit still had the „classical“ Double Gauss design which has been the realm of M-lenses for so long. The new Apo Summicron obviously has the much more complicated design of the SL-lenses - forced into the small mount of an M-lens. The times when it was the aim of Leica lenses to achieve better performance with less lens elements seem to be just a faint remembrance of the past. Perhaps the times when lenses for the M set the standard for optical design are gone. Now designs for completely different systems set the standards and are customized for the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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