stump4545 Posted January 23, 2021 Share #1 Posted January 23, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Before I buy a Visoflex for my M10 mono, any guess if a new upgraded Visoflex will be releases anytime soon for the M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Overgaard Posted January 23, 2021 Share #2 Posted January 23, 2021 Would be nice, but not likely. When Leica did the M10 the idea was to redesign a new housing but when they learned how much it would cost, they decided to continue with the existing EVF 020. Then again, as the EVF 020 fits TL2, M10, M10-R and so on, so an upgraded version could be nice at some point. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 24, 2021 Share #3 Posted January 24, 2021 With a rangefinder, as long as the viewfinder can assist with accurate framing and at odd viewing angles, it will serve its purpose. If you need to use the viewfinder constantly for focusing, then there are other camera options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrostl Posted January 24, 2021 Share #4 Posted January 24, 2021 LeicaRumors has been extremely reliable in my observation at product reveals, and this one is not coming up over there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelssadman Posted January 24, 2021 Share #5 Posted January 24, 2021 Folks, what do you think about the next Visoflex having an integrated thumbrest or at least having the option of buying a Visoflex with an integrated thumbrest for those not wanting to miss that when using the EVF? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 24, 2021 Share #6 Posted January 24, 2021 😉 Articulate thumbrest has been put on M10-D so no need another "better" Visoflex 020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/317283-new-upgraded-visoflex-coming-anytime-soon/?do=findComment&comment=4124590'>More sharing options...
evikne Posted January 24, 2021 Share #7 Posted January 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 20 hours ago, stump4545 said: Before I buy a Visoflex for my M10 mono, any guess if a new upgraded Visoflex will be releases anytime soon for the M? I've heard that the M10's processor would not handle an improved Visoflex with higher resolution etc. So we will most likely not see one before the next generation M camera is launched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 25, 2021 Share #8 Posted January 25, 2021 12 hours ago, feelssadman said: Folks, what do you think about the next Visoflex having an integrated thumbrest or at least having the option of buying a Visoflex with an integrated thumbrest for those not wanting to miss that when using the EVF? There's always the option of using a Thumbie that doesn't occupy the hot shoe and stays on the M10 when using the Visoflex 020. Pete. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2021 Share #9 Posted January 25, 2021 vor 6 Stunden schrieb farnz: There's always the option of using a Thumbie that doesn't occupy the hot shoe and stays on the M10 when using the Visoflex 020. Pete. No, a stick-on thumbie would never be an alternative for me. I would always ask myself whether the adhesive also holds in extreme temperatures and heavier lenses. In addition, I have already seen some Leicas, where such a glued-on Thumbie left ugly marks after it was removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelssadman Posted January 25, 2021 Share #10 Posted January 25, 2021 Thank you for showing an alternative, Pete! I'd be unsure about how well and for how long the adhesive would last though. I assume there's no debate that the aforementioned proposition would structurally be far superior compared to the Thumbie. Nonetheless, we still have no other option so far if someone wants to use a thumb rest and the Visoflex simultaneously. Leica, please fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted January 25, 2021 Share #11 Posted January 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, feelssadman said: Thank you for showing an alternative, Pete! I'd be unsure about how well and for how long the adhesive would last though. I assume there's no debate that the aforementioned proposition would structurally be far superior compared to the Thumbie. Nonetheless, we still have no other option so far if someone wants to use a thumb rest and the Visoflex simultaneously. Leica, please fix. I have a Thumbie and can vouch for the lasting property of the adhesive (same as used in the automotive industry). Also it can be removed without leaving any marks. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 25, 2021 Share #12 Posted January 25, 2021 2 hours ago, mnutzer said: No, a stick-on thumbie would never be an alternative for me. I would always ask myself whether the adhesive also holds in extreme temperatures and heavier lenses. In addition, I have already seen some Leicas, where such a glued-on Thumbie left ugly marks after it was removed. As you might expect I naturally asked myself the same question about how strong the adhesive is and whether I'd be left holding a shiny Thumbie and looking at a broken camera on the ground in front of me. But I've used Thumbies with my M8's, my M9P, and my M240 with no trouble at all and all were as strongly stuck on when I removed them as the day I stuck them on despite using them in 35C+ degrees, below freezing, in the snow, and with my Noctilux attached. Removing a Thumbie is really easy - you just take the Thumbie been your thumb and forefinger and rotate it until the bond sheers and the Thumbie comes away in your hand. I should add that using the camera normally does not cause this to happen. On all four Thumbies I have used there was very little residual glue left on the camera and any glue marks were eassily removed using my thumb. I sold these cameras through a very picky Leica dealer (aren't they all?) and he couldn't tell there'd ever been Thumbies on them. I can only assume that the ugly marks that you saw were from removing the Thumbie incorrectly or were from dust and grime that might have formed around the edges of the Thumbie during its use perhaps? (For full disclosure, I have no connection with the Thumbie or the gent that produces them other than as a thoroughly satisfied customer.) @250swb Steve, is there anything you'd like to add or correct in what I've said? Pete. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtoleica Posted January 25, 2021 Share #13 Posted January 25, 2021 9 hours ago, farnz said: As you might expect I naturally asked myself the same question about how strong the adhesive is and whether I'd be left holding a shiny Thumbie and looking at a broken camera on the ground in front of me. But I've used Thumbies with my M8's, my M9P, and my M240 with no trouble at all and all were as strongly stuck on when I removed them as the day I stuck them on despite using them in 35C+ degrees, below freezing, in the snow, and with my Noctilux attached. Removing a Thumbie is really easy - you just take the Thumbie been your thumb and forefinger and rotate it until the bond sheers and the Thumbie comes away in your hand. I should add that using the camera normally does not cause this to happen. On all four Thumbies I have used there was very little residual glue left on the camera and any glue marks were eassily removed using my thumb. I sold these cameras through a very picky Leica dealer (aren't they all?) and he couldn't tell there'd ever been Thumbies on them. I can only assume that the ugly marks that you saw were from removing the Thumbie incorrectly or were from dust and grime that might have formed around the edges of the Thumbie during its use perhaps? (For full disclosure, I have no connection with the Thumbie or the gent that produces them other than as a thoroughly satisfied customer.) @250swb Steve, is there anything you'd like to add or correct in what I've said? Pete. Can vouch for this likewise on M9, MM, M240 and now my M10P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj3209 Posted January 25, 2021 Share #14 Posted January 25, 2021 I have the VisoFlex for my M10D and I only use it when I have trouble using the RF for focusing such as in dim situations. I don't like to keep it on, honestly so I don't really see a need for an upgrade. When I need constant EVF, I pull out my handy Q2. Cheers! CJ 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 25, 2021 Share #15 Posted January 25, 2021 My secondhand m240 came with a thumbie a year later, it’s still there it’s brassed nicely too! but I do think that Leica should use the in-built M10-D thumbgrip from now on (and go back to the off/single/continuous/timer switch) I do think that the 020 was about 3 year old tech when the M10 came out, but as others have said, the M really isn’t really about EVFing to make the shot (it’s handy that it tilts though) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted January 26, 2021 Share #16 Posted January 26, 2021 They can’t do both. The M10-D’s thumbgrip takes up the space where the switch had been on other M10s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted January 26, 2021 Share #17 Posted January 26, 2021 Interesting though it still takes up with hotshoe mount.https://leicarumors.com/2019/09/06/lever-type-thumb-rest-for-leica-m10-m10-p-now-available-for-sale.aspx/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted January 26, 2021 Share #18 Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, rramesh said: Interesting though it still takes up with hotshoe mount.https://leicarumors.com/2019/09/06/lever-type-thumb-rest-for-leica-m10-m10-p-now-available-for-sale.aspx/ The webpage is from September 2019 and clicking through to Map Camera who sells the 'lever-type' thumb rest informs that it has been discontinued. There might be a few floating around on that online auction site but even at its original price of £400 it would be quite a leap of faith. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecycliste Posted April 1, 2021 Share #19 Posted April 1, 2021 On 1/25/2021 at 4:14 PM, cj3209 said: I have the VisoFlex for my M10D and I only use it when I have trouble using the RF for focusing such as in dim situations. I don't like to keep it on, honestly so I don't really see a need for an upgrade. When I need constant EVF, I pull out my handy Q2. Cheers! CJ 😁 Instead of the Visoflex Typ 20, I prefer Leica’s more recent EVF. It’s called the SL2. 😜😜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
strohscw Posted April 1, 2021 Share #20 Posted April 1, 2021 vor einer Stunde schrieb lecycliste: Instead of the Visoflex Typ 20, I prefer Leica’s more recent EVF. It’s called the SL2. 😜😜 Would be perfect if the sensor would be optimised for M-lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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