maxspbr Posted September 17, 2020 Share #1 Posted September 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is this Leica (on the 11.xxx range) correct? I never had in hands one of these but from my books I see: a) it doesn't have the "Ernst Leitz Wetzlar" around speed button. A bad repaint job, maybe? b) the accessory shoe is square. I don't have more photos on it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What do you think? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What do you think? Thanks in advance. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/313416-is-this-ia-correct/?do=findComment&comment=4047499'>More sharing options...
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Pyrogallol Posted September 17, 2020 Share #2 Posted September 17, 2020 Looks right to me, but I’m not an expert. The focus stop screw doesn’t look like it’s original and the lens front looks very crisp. can you show a picture of the top please to see what the engraving looks like? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #3 Posted September 17, 2020 The coating, the metal of the lens is very strange. Neither nickel nor chrome. Looks new. Matt finish looks very suspect. The knob and the end stop are not right too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #4 Posted September 17, 2020 I think the only visible original untreated here is the vulcanite, the body. It is definitely tinkered together / tried to restore. And these crooked Letters...🙄 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/313416-is-this-ia-correct/?do=findComment&comment=4047550'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 17, 2020 Share #5 Posted September 17, 2020 Weird finish on the lens looks like the plating has been shot blasted off then painted, couple that with a body that looks too new to be true. It may not be an actual fake, but it's been badly restored, and if the outer did need restoring this much was it restored mechanically as well? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 17, 2020 Share #6 Posted September 17, 2020 Camera and lens appear to be genuine but it's been 'restored' carefully to make it look like a fake at first glance! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted September 17, 2020 Share #7 Posted September 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just to inform you about the rangefinder : it must be used with the large ring of the distance in front of you ...and upside down ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 17, 2020 Share #8 Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Reini said: I think the only visible original untreated here is the vulcanite, the body. It is definitely tinkered together / tried to restore. And these crooked Letters...🙄 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Unless it's a bit of distortion in the image the engravings on the lens don't appear to be concentric with the lens assembly or knurled outer ring. Is it some sort of insert to disguise something? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #9 Posted September 17, 2020 vor 5 Minuten schrieb 250swb: Is it some sort of insert to disguise something? Yes. That he usually only writes in Cyrillic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 17, 2020 Share #10 Posted September 17, 2020 It’s just a restored camera, but original as it goes. Whether you like a camera restored like that is a matter of taste. The original shiny nickel was probably “restored” using paint, it looks like. Hard to see in the photos, but the pattern of the shine below the speed dial might hint at brush marks for black paint retouching, which would not be surprising. The early-style 7m mark on the focus scale agrees with the dimpled mushroom, low-profile winding knob and small lettering on the lens face to signal a high 4-digit or low 5-digit serial number. The texture of the body covering is right. The FOFER rangefinder doesn’t really go with this model - it needs a FODIS. Nothing Russian here, anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspbr Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pyrogallol said: Looks right to me, but I’m not an expert. The focus stop screw doesn’t look like it’s original and the lens front looks very crisp. can you show a picture of the top please to see what the engraving looks like? The seller put a movie on youtube. 55 minutes ago, jc_braconi said: Just to inform you about the rangefinder : it must be used with the large ring of the distance in front of you ...and upside down ! I know that. Not my photos. As you can see on movie the seller has no much idea how to handle it! Edited September 17, 2020 by maxspbr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #12 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) He has a little idea. And knows about the serial numbers. This is already for advanced. If you want to buy them ... don't. Here all history and cultural assets have been destroyed. Edited September 17, 2020 by Reini 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 17, 2020 Share #13 Posted September 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, Reini said: Here all history and cultural assets have been destroyed. Ah, that’s a little harsh! 🤨 It’s still a I A, just with a little Botox. Even modifications have a history. I hope I still look like such a semblance of my original self when I turn 92. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #14 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) vor 9 Minuten schrieb M9reno: Ah, that’s a little harsh! 🤨 It’s still a I A, just with a little Botox. Even modifications have a history. I hope I still look like such a semblance of my original self when I turn 92. Do you know the definition of restoration? It does not mean destroying the original state and painting over with any color. Edited September 17, 2020 by Reini 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 17, 2020 Share #15 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Reini said: Do you know the definition of restoration? It does not mean destroying the original state and painting over with any color. Not to my taste either, but I took issue with the idea of history being destroyed. And you can bet I know the definition of history... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #16 Posted September 17, 2020 A camera has a story when it has been used and you can see it. A boring story if it looks like new and has never seen the light of day either. This one here can talk about sandpaper. And I know what to restore means. I'm sorry for my honest Feelings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 17, 2020 Share #17 Posted September 17, 2020 No need to apologise, but... It’s a real Leica I A. It was made ca. 1928. It belongs very near the origin of the long saga of 35mm and Leica photography. How does even a bit of sandpaper destroy any of that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #18 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Would you recommend it to anyone at this price? 5600 Brazilian Real = aprox. 900 Euro = 1070 Dollar? Not me. https://www.vapordaarte.com.br/peca.asp?Id=7613642 You can find them right away when you google: Rara e Linda Câmera Leica I Modelo A Black 1928 Edited September 17, 2020 by Reini 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reini Posted September 17, 2020 Share #19 Posted September 17, 2020 vor 7 Minuten schrieb M9reno: How does even a bit of sandpaper destroy any of that? A good painter grinds the surface (the original paint) before painting. You can try to wash the paint down to see how it looks underneath. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 17, 2020 Share #20 Posted September 17, 2020 I never said anything about the price... But I can imagine there are parts of the world (like Brazil) where supply is low and price is high. We in Europe are spoiled for choice. I doubt the entire camera was repainted black, by the way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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