epand56 Posted December 23, 2020 Share #161 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 hours ago, Dennis said: Do you use it with external VF or Visoflex? Dennis, you're right, Nokton 21 is a very amusing lens because you can open up and have a very short DOF. That's great with such a ultra wide lens. Is very easy to use it with the VF but in low light the EVF comes handy for sure (even if the M240's EVF is not that big deal). I've used both but when using the EVF happened to me to check through the VF to be sure the subject I wanted was in focus. I love this bulky chum. But also the Ultron 21/1.8 was a terrific lens (both not very different from the 21 Summilux pictures I've seen). Edited December 23, 2020 by epand56 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 Hi epand56, Take a look here 21mm lenses. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
tomasis7 Posted December 23, 2020 Share #162 Posted December 23, 2020 what m lenses work well on Z6/7, A7 etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeamosau Posted January 4, 2021 Share #163 Posted January 4, 2021 On 12/22/2020 at 3:52 AM, RayD28 said: Great article! Thank you!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted January 14, 2021 Share #164 Posted January 14, 2021 I'm not seeing much love here for the 2.8/21 Elmarit M (pre asph version). This is a Mandler design and renders really nicely with digital Ms. It's also not expensive compared to other 21s. This was taken on an M8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4117816'>More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted January 14, 2021 Share #165 Posted January 14, 2021 And another with the 2.8/21 Elmarit M, this time on an M-P 240 at 1250 ISO Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4117822'>More sharing options...
SiggiGun Posted January 14, 2021 Share #166 Posted January 14, 2021 My experience is limited to the 21Elmarit (preASPH.) and the 21SEM. no doubt, the 21SEM is an excellent lens and has great value in my lineup for travel and landscape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 14, 2021 Share #167 Posted January 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 hours ago, Ernstk said: I'm not seeing much love here for the 2.8/21 Elmarit M (pre asph version). This is a Mandler design and renders really nicely with digital Ms. It's also not expensive compared to other 21s. The lens that brought me to the Leica dance 20 years ago. First lens I got 6-bit coded in 2007 (among the "freebies" Leica provided to M8 buyers). I've never really seen any reason to replace it - a little extra corner sharpness at f/2.8 isn't worth giving up the Mandler color and tonality. I do sometimes wish ELCAN had figured out how to keep the prototype's 49mm diameter, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted January 14, 2021 Share #168 Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, adan said: The lens that brought me to the Leica dance 20 years ago. First lens I got 6-bit coded in 2007 (among the "freebies" Leica provided to M8 buyers). I've never really seen any reason to replace it - a little extra corner sharpness at f/2.8 isn't worth giving up the Mandler color and tonality. I do sometimes wish ELCAN had figured out how to keep the prototype's 49mm diameter, though. I really like it. 99% of my shots are from the 2.8/21 Elmarit M or my 35 'Lux pre-asph. I'd guess that 70% of my work is done with the 2.8/21 and my natural 'view' on my Ms seems to be 21mm. I've thought from time to time about finding another 21 mm but to be honest, I have no real need. I have wondered what the aspherical version of the lens might be like? Ernst Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted January 14, 2021 Share #169 Posted January 14, 2021 vor 18 Minuten schrieb Ernstk: I've thought from time to time about finding another 21 mm but to be honest, I have no real need. So do I, I got the 2.8/21 Elmarit M more than 30 years ago and still use it and do not see any disadvantages except a little but for me acceptable softness in the corners at 2.8f M10-D (uncropped) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4118331'>More sharing options...
Ernstk Posted January 14, 2021 Share #170 Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, AndreasG said: So do I, I got the 2.8/21 Elmarit M more than 30 years ago and still use it and do not see any disadvantages except a little but for me acceptable softness in the corners at 2.8f M10-D (uncropped) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's a shame that it's such an undervalued lens. I bought mine (used, but mint) in London about 6 years ago for £650 ($950). Probably the best value lens I own. Ernst 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted January 16, 2021 Share #171 Posted January 16, 2021 Yesterday evening M + CV Nokton 21mm f1.4 Asph. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4119252'>More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted January 16, 2021 Share #172 Posted January 16, 2021 I’m considering trading my 24 Elmar for the 21 SEM. the 24 is truly outstanding, I’m just seeing the 21 as adding a new dynamic to my existing kit of 24 / 35 / 75. While I understand 24 and 21are different I’m not sure there’s enough difference for ‘heavy’ usage. if anyone can share 21 v 24 practicality I’d be very interested- thx 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktaka Posted January 16, 2021 Share #173 Posted January 16, 2021 The Voigtlander 21/1.8 Ultron is a very fun and practical lens. I reviewed it here. Doesn't get sharp corner-to-corner until about f/4 though. The Voigtlander 21/3.5 Color-Skopar is also a very impressive and compact lens (review here). Its only real flaw is field curvature which can be problematic for landscapes. The 21 SEM and Voigtlander 21/1.4 are king for corner-to-corner image quality, from what I've seen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted January 17, 2021 Share #174 Posted January 17, 2021 6 hours ago, jacktaka said: The Voigtlander 21/1.8 Ultron is a very fun and practical lens. I reviewed it here. Doesn't get sharp corner-to-corner until about f/4 though. The Voigtlander 21/3.5 Color-Skopar is also a very impressive and compact lens (review here). Its only real flaw is field curvature which can be problematic for landscapes. The 21 SEM and Voigtlander 21/1.4 are king for corner-to-corner image quality, from what I've seen. Excellent! Thank you so much , thorough and insightful information- very well done and I enjoyed both reads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted January 24, 2021 Share #175 Posted January 24, 2021 My town. M240 + CV Nokton 21/1.4 Asph. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4124494'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 24, 2021 Share #176 Posted January 24, 2021 For strolling around the local countryside, the SEM. is ideal - here with M10M. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4124543'>More sharing options...
OR120 Posted January 24, 2021 Share #177 Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/13/2021 at 9:22 PM, Ernstk said: I'm not seeing much love here for the 2.8/21 Elmarit M (pre asph version). This is a Mandler design and renders really nicely with digital Ms. It's also not expensive compared to other 21s. This was taken on an M8 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This Leica 21 2.8 is a wonderful lens. I used it for many years on my R3, R4 MOT and SL2. I wish I still had it - when your young and not loaded with cash - you make many trades. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 24, 2021 Share #178 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, OR120 said: This Leica 21 2.8 is a wonderful lens. I used it for many years on my R3, R4 MOT and SL2. I wish I still had it - when your young and not loaded with cash - you make many trades. Maybe mistaken of lens, OR120 ? Leica M lenses can not be used on Leica SLR (as said R3/4/Leicaflex SL2) can it be this SA 4/21 that you wish still having? Edited January 24, 2021 by a.noctilux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted January 24, 2021 Share #179 Posted January 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: Maybe mistaken of lens, OR120 ? Leica M lenses can not be used on Leica SLR (as said R3/4/Leicaflex SL2) can it be this SA 4/21 that you wish still having? You're right! I'm thinking of my old 19mm Elmarit 2.8. Thank you for clearing my head. It's dusty up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobram Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #180 Posted January 25, 2021 My beloved and surprisingly good Color Skopar 21mm F4. As I opened this topic I shall give some additional feedback... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310537-21mm-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4125455'>More sharing options...
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